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  • #594286
    Brooklyn Yenta
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    woohoo! first op ever! shehecheyanu!

    ahem <clear throat> so what are the chances that second marriages work?

    #729517
    Bed-Stuy
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    what are the chances that second marriages work?

    Not any better than the first. Probably worse, since you are usually marrying someone else who was divorced. (I’m not discussing widowers/widows.) Therefore, it is usually best to stick it out with your first marriage.

    #729518
    always here
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    My husband & I were both married previously, no children. We just celebrated our 33rd wedding anniversary last week… 4 married children, and 4 grandchildren so far. B’H!, bli ayin hora.

    2nd marriages work! 🙂

    #729519
    always here
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    Bed-Stuy– no offense, but that was an ignorant answer!! :/

    #729520
    Brooklyn Yenta
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    this question was meant regarding people that are already divorced/widowed. we already went through the whole divorce issue on some other threads.

    #729521
    intersaanteh
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    According to enrichment journal on the divorce rate in America:

    The divorce rate in America for first marriage is 41%

    The divorce rate in America for second marriage is 60%

    The divorce rate in America for third marriage is 73%

    #729522
    intersaanteh
    Member

    Tischadshi Ms. Yenta.

    Hey, why did s/he divorce the first time? If it was a wrongful alliance to a parent, why would it not happen again? Then again, people can and do improve. It all depends

    If it was the other spouses fault, second marriage would work.

    Congrats Always here. Keep it up!

    #729523
    always here
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    according to our life journal:

    the success rate in America for our second marriage is 100%. B’H

    #729524
    morah reyna
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    I know someone divorced looking to re-marry. If she would read this she’d be scared off forever.

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    Bed-Stuy…people divorce for many many reasons. to stay married just to stay married is not always the best…

    #729526
    smartcookie
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    Second marriages work like first marriages. Some work, some don’t.

    Good luck!

    #729527
    BEST IMA
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    Brooklyn Yenta Welcome! I know plenty of second marriages that are doing great. Its not easy especially if there are children involved but dont listen to the negative comments. You want to be more cautious before going into a second marriage but definately give it a go.

    #729528
    Bed-Stuy
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    The point is to avoid divorce in the first place. It is avoidable in the majority of cases.

    #729529
    Bed-Stuy
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    Not only is the divorce rate for second marriages significantly higher than first marriages, but parties are coming into it with previous baggage (and possibly children.)

    #729530
    s2021
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    So.. before a second marriage.. how do ppl know which divorced ppl r messed up (and therefore caused problems..created a reason for divorce..)and which r NORMAL? r there normal divorced men? coming out of a marriage and knowing there r nuts out there like my ex husband im a lil itty bit suspicious of divorced men… how would anyone know a divorced guy is normal/good/working on himself when he could just be lying his face off? how would i know?? ok someone please tell me how very wrong and paranoid i am….:)

    #729531
    Feif Un
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    intersaanteh: If those stats exclude widows/widowers, then the numbers are actually good. After all, 100% of people who get married a second time already were divorced once. So there’s a 40% decrease in their divorce rate!

    #729532
    intersaanteh
    Member

    lol Feif

    s2021: You have every reason to be suspicious. The numbers are not in your favor. Always find out what measures were taken to make the marriage work. Solution: Don’t get divorced unless you 1) MUST. 2) a rov and/or professional tell you you are doing all you can but it cant work because of him. They will be able to vouch for you being the normal one.

    #729533
    WolfishMusings
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    My father and his wife are currently in their third marriage each. They have now been married for over 25 years… longer than any of their previous marriages and they are truly happy together.

    Yes, my one example does not constitute statistical evidence, but it does show that even third marriages *can* work when the couple are right for each other.

    The Wolf

    #729534
    intersaanteh
    Member

    Wolf: I would add one more ingredient. They are committed to make it work

    #729535
    always here
    Participant

    smartcookie gave a smart answer:

    “Second marriages work like first marriages. Some work, some don’t.”

    #729536
    SJSinNYC
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    Second marriages generally come with more baggage (children, money issues, reason for the failure of the first marriage etc). In addition, there are those who just can’t really make marriage work (or refuse to do whats necessary) but don’t quite understand that.

    Let me give an example of a 2nd marriage that ended in 6 weeks. They get married after a short dating time. She wants friendship cottage cheese, he wants to buy generic. Her kids want to come out to visit and get to know her husband. They only eat Rubashkin, which she wants to buy. He only wants to buy empire because its cheaper. This literally broke apart their marriage. (Granted, its indicative of other issues rather than the chicken or cottage cheese, but those were both major fights).

    #729537
    oomis
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    Bed-Stuy — SERIOUSLY?????????

    Second marriages can work quite well (I am so happy for you, Always Here). I would suggest to divorced people contemplating a second marriage, to have some counseling individually and as a couple, prior to taking the big step, and try to understand what went wrong the first time around.

    #729538
    Sacrilege
    Member

    SJS

    I dont know the couple you are referring to but I wouldnt blame that on the “second marriage”, it sounds like that couple has I-S-S-U-E-S.

    #729539
    oomis
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    SJS, if what you wrote about is what broke up their marriage, they had a lot more to fix than what they were eating. Nobody should marry, even the first time, without discussing such mundane things. And how money is spent is NOT mundane.

    #729540
    mewho
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    there are good stories and bad stories here jsut as in everything else. depends on the people etc

    #729541
    SJSinNYC
    Member

    Sac, they absolutely had issues. But certain things are harder in second marriages – money and children are two of them. If it had been a first marriage, probably both would have compromised in some way. And they wouldn’t have had to deal with the second issue because eventually it would be their children, not his or hers.

    Oomis, I never would have thought to discuss my husband’s thoughts on generic vs name brand before marriage. We absolutely had money conversations, but not in those details. This was also a very short (and long distance) relationship, which further complicated everything.

    #729542
    Brooklyn Yenta
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    just wanted to see if i could start a thread that would get a reaction :-).

    as for the topic, i do think a lot of you are right: some work, some don’t. there is extra baggage, but on the other hand, divorcees already know what marriage is supposed to be about, and hopefully come into it with a better understanding of themselves. additionally, i think that people should date for a long time to try to get to know each other a lot better before committing. is it a guarantee? absolutely not, but the more time you spend with the person, the harder it is for them to keep up a facade.

    #729543
    dvorak
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    It’s a fact that second marriages have a significantly higher failure rate than first marriages. That’s not to say they can’t work- both my parents are in happy second marriages- but they take MUCH more work, and remember, oftentimes, the first marriage ended because of a lack of effort. The spouses going for a second shot automatically have baggage, if there are kids, you have to deal with the tremendous pressure of trying to get along with them (and they won’t make it easy), there is crazy money pressure, especially where you have a husband who has to pay alimony/child support to an ex wife. The odds are stacked against the couple; they are faced with unbelievable pressure, and that’s why so many don’t make it. This is not to say don’t get remarried, just that you have to know what you’re getting into and be prepared to deal with it, and work much harder than you would in a first marriage.

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