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November 13, 2014 9:53 pm at 9:53 pm #614245secretagentyidMember
My friend told me the ????? says that ???)and his wife I suppose) are the fifth pair buried in mearas hamachpela. I have no idea if this is true or not, but if he does say it, it raises problems with at least one possuk and mutiple chazals. Does anyone a) have a source for this? B) have pshat in this if it does indeed exist?
Thanks so much
November 13, 2014 11:23 pm at 11:23 pm #1042783Letakein GirlParticipantRabbi Wallerstein discussed this in a recent shiur, entitled “The Pearl Necklace.”
The Chiddah is in Parshas Chayei Sarah, perek ??.
November 13, 2014 11:47 pm at 11:47 pm #1042784secretagentyidMemberThanks. I could find the shiur on youtube?
November 13, 2014 11:55 pm at 11:55 pm #1042785Patur Aval AssurParticipantYou don’t need the Chida. It was already said by R’ Eleazar of Worms several hundred years earlier:
??? ??? ??? ?? ?????? ???’ ?’ ????? ????? ????? ?’ ????? ??’ ??????
??????? ?? ????? ???? ???? ????? ???? ???? ???????? ?? ??? ???? ??? ?????? ???”? ??? ??? ???? ?????? ???? ??? ??? ???? ?? ?? ????? ????? ??? ????? ?? ??? ??? ?? ?????? ??? ???? ???? ????? ???? ??? ??? ??? ??? ?? ?????? ??? ??????? ?????’ ?? ???? ???? ???? ???? ?? ??? ????? ??? ????? ????? ??? ??? ??? ???? ??? ?? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ???? ?? ??? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ?”?
November 14, 2014 12:15 am at 12:15 am #1042786Letakein GirlParticipantNo, it’s on torahanytime.com, and it’s called Parshat Chayei Sarah “The Pearl Necklace”
Enjoy!
November 14, 2014 4:09 am at 4:09 am #1042787Patur Aval AssurParticipantHere’s a link (to my source, not Letakein’s source) if you want to see it inside:
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40224&st=&pgnum=122
November 14, 2014 7:39 am at 7:39 am #1042788secretagentyidMemberThanks everyone!
November 18, 2014 9:17 am at 9:17 am #1042789RandomexMemberSo I guess “??? ??? ??? ?? ??????” is to be interpreted as
referring only to the time when he was actually buried?
(Also, when was Tziporah buried there, and by whom?)
November 19, 2014 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #1042790HaLeiViParticipantI think the Zohar Hakadosh discusses the fact that even his bones did not go in. Also, many Mephorshim (including the ??? ????? ??’, the Chida’s Rebbi) explain that the reason for Moshe Rabbeinu being buries outside of Eretz Yisroel is to bring the Yidden back from the Galus. Also, isn’t there a Medrash about a king who tried finding the Kever, and it seemed to those on top that it was on bottom and vice versa?
An easy way out is that his physical bones did not enter but his Neshama did go through Me’aras Hamachpeila which is described as the doorway to the Olam Haneshamos.
November 19, 2014 9:15 pm at 9:15 pm #1042791Patur Aval AssurParticipantHaleivi:
Bamidbar Rabba 19:13:
??? ?? ???”? ???? ????? ???? ??? ???? ????? ???? ??? ????? ???? ????? ???? ?? ??? ?????? ???? ???? ????? ????? ??????? ?? ??? ??? ?? ???? ?? ?? ???? ????? ?? ????? ?????? ???? ????? ???? ?? ??? ??? ?? ???”? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ??? ????? ??? ??? ????? ????? ??? ???? ????? ??? ????? ??? ??? ??? ???? ???? ???? ????? (????? ??) ???? ???? ?? ???? ?’ ??? ??? ???? ?? ???? ?? ???? ??? ??? ???? ???
November 19, 2014 9:34 pm at 9:34 pm #1042792secretagentyidMemberApparently there’s a zohar that says there is a tunnel going underground from mearas hamachpela to moshes grave. Possible teretz there
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