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There appears to be an explosion of motorized scooters especially by young yeshiva boys. I certainly understand how they make transportation quicker, but given the fact that yeshivos do not have any physical education per se, it seems the kids would be better off walking or biking.
“Physical education per se”😂😂😂
agree100%Now we know why they are “self” funding
Opened the thread with trepidation of some other bad news… Baruch Hashem, it is just a metaphorical explosion. Maybe they are using scooters to fulfil a mitzva of respecting their parents and visiting them more often?
I would also think that moto-scooter is less self-harmful than biking in big cities, at least by spending less time on the road.
As with almost everything, they can be used for good and bad. Unfortunately, I’ve seen first han, kids that are so completely reliant on their scooters/hoverboards, they’ve probably forgotten how to walk.
By riding scooters they improve the dexterity in their fingers and the well balanced colongbrate in their feet. Its been proven by neuroscientist that riding a scooter is much better for you than other wheeled alternatives saying because while riding a scooter you’re able to relax and look around and appreciate what’s going on while others need much more concentration, this then increases the serotonin levels in your brain. So what I think you’re trying to say here buddy is that you dont want the bochurim to be happy? Correct?
I think some people just feel this pull to criticize anything they see a “group of yeshiva boys” doing. The idea that riding their scooter to work implies they don’t play sports or walk at other times of the day is ridiculous. Do you walk to work? Do you sit on a chair at work when you could be using that to to jog in place at your desk? Do you shop in a supermarket instead of planting and picking fresh veggies from your yard? Do you make phone calls instead of walking over to the other persons’ home or office and having a face to face conversation to keep your eye contact and non verbal social skills in tip top shape?
These guys have found a way to save their parents the expansive headache and torture of carpool – which probably earns them palace like accomodations in olam hemes after 120 and won’t be stolen by the local thugs from the bike rack outside of yeshiva.
Can we just stretch ourselves and either find something nice to say about a “group of yeshiva boys”, or work really hard to figure out why we don’t.
🙄Honestly Syag, I almost always agree with your posts, but in this case I want to say that I have a problem with yeshiva “boys” – emphasis on boy – riding anything motorized on the streets in any city of the world. Do the boys understand the laws of the road? Are they wearing a helmet? What are the rules and do they follow them? I know that here in EY, a person from age 16 can ride an electric bike or electric scooter after passing the theory portion of the driver’s test. He is considered a motor vehicle, not a simple bicycle or skateboard. That means that he has to understand the laws of the road and what he is or is not allowed to do. Riding on the sidewalk is not generally safe because of pedestrians that cannot get out of the way in time. I’ve seen boys criss-crossing from one side of the street to the other, going on the side walk and using a crosswalk, but I don’t know too many cars that can stop in time for a moving vehicle that suddenly darts out from the opposite side of the street and crosses in front. Helmets are a must! I don’t know what to tell these boys to do with their hats, especially if they’re going for davening or yeshiva, but they will provide little protection in the event of an accident. This is an issue that has bothered me for a long time and I live in a relatively quiet neighborhood but with a growing young population and parents may not be aware of the laws, but there are basics that need to be followed for the safety of all.
Nechomah > . Do the boys understand the laws of the road? Are they wearing a helmet? What are the rules and do they follow them?
Things are not much better in big cities in US, in general. Bikers in general disregard the rules, but rarely win when confronted with a big block of metal. Progressive governments protect them by chopping off a half of the road for bike lanes, which steals times from drivers and is lifnei ever anyway – entices more people to use bikes everywhere, not just where it is safe.
Some here might say that Hashem protects innocents, and that surely going for a mitzva is better than a helmet. The opposite opinion would be that if someone volunteers to endanger himself, why would Hashem bother answering his prayers. At best, He can send a thief to steal the scooter.
Nechomah – I agree with you 100% I think we were talking apples and oranges. I see now the word is scooter, but here where I live all the boys are on those segway/hoverboard things so maybe it’s different. They do not ride in the streets and they are wearing helmets. I have not seen them “driving” recklessly. I definitely have a “safety first” attitude and when these things first came out the police stopped the use of it pretty quick telling the boys they could not ride them on the sidewalk or the street. Somehow things changed (maybe because it was not a covid issue so they dropped it)
So my exaggerated and over dramatic response was the need of the OP to make a post expressing some flaw in the yeshiva boys and their schooling in any way possible. Nothing about the OP mentioned safety, it was all about opening yet another door to complaining about yeshiva boys and yeshivas.
(I call it stupidity because how a person gets to school is about distance and timing. The idea that because their 9 hour day does not include formal phys ed, they most certainly must be inactive. Hogwash)Now we can open a new thread about the non yeshiva boys who come home after only 7 hours to spend even more hours a day on their devices …. hmm… doesn’t quite have the same zing to it.
I think it’s terrible.
Assuming it’s a reasonable distance, people should walk, ride bikes, or ride regular scooters where they need to go.
Nothing to do with yeshivas or kids.
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