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I have come to the conclusion that those rabbonim who denounce schools that won’t admit unvaccinated children are right. Every Jewish child is entitled to a kosher chinuch, and it’s wrong for a school to deny this to one child just because his or her parents are so crazy, lazy, or neglectful as not to have had him or her vaccinated.
Therefore I propose that the schools change their policy and announce that from now on their doors are open to all Jewish children. If your child is unvaccinated please note that upon registration, and on the first day of school please bring him or her half an hour early. A nurse will be on hand, and the child will be vaccinated in time to make it to the first class of the day.
If parents choose not to take advantage of this offer, and are so meshuge and/or cruel that they will keep their children out of school for such a reason, that can hardly be the schools’ fault. The same rabbonim who now condemn the schools would have no choice, if they are honest and yir’ei shomayim, but to turn their condemnation on the parents.
How will the schools know if a parent is being dishonest in claiming that their child is already vaccinated (and potentially presented false documentation)?
@milhouse Rather than merely deny them a Jewish education, how about we excommunicate the parents and their children who don’t get vaccinated. That way they have to get vaccinated to be Jewish.
They care claiming a religious exemption. Let the clergy of their religion start a school and educate them according to their religion. We are not responsible to educate children who claim a different religion.
Joseph: It’s at least the second time you mention parents falsifying their kids’ immunization records. Almost impossible to do in NY, not sure about NJ.
In NYS, I the schools have direct access to vaccination records entered by all doctors/pediatricians to the Health Depts.’ web site. So unless one has a doctor willing to enter false information, the schools will find out the truth when they log in. Below I copy-pasted from the NY DoH website. You can easily find the full text.
As part of this effort, the New York State legislature passed the Immunization Registry Law which, as of January 1, 2008, requires health care providers to report all immunizations administered to persons less than 19 years of age, along with the person’s immunization histories, to the New York State Department of Health using the New York State Immunization Information System (NYSIIS).
Are these same rabbonim also condemning schools that refuse to allow kids to attend whose parents haven’t paid tuition? After all, every Jewish child deserves a Jewish education. Or are poor kids more dangerous than unvaccinated kids and therefore they should be refused admittance?
Millhous, you’re being very foolish. Which school is willing to risk the 1) illegality of giving the vaccinations and 2) the resulting justifiable lawsuits?
This is essentially what is happening, except instead of the schools vaccinating the kids, they encourage the parents to bring them to an accredited physician to vaccinate them.
In other words, it’s already the parents’ fault.
I assume this is Milhouse’s point…
Maybe require a letter from their local and well known doctor directly to the school with the vaccination record because I have heard, but not verified, that some parents are taking the vaccination record on one child and erasing the name and placing other children to falsify the record. If the child does not have such a letter from this doctor, the nurse will give the child all the necessary vaccination. If a parent refuses, they can find a different school for anti-vaxxers that are willing to let their children get polio.
So I propose that the school reframe the whole conversation by saying all children are welcome — but if you send them to us we will vaccinate them.
The rabbonim claiming the schools are denying the children chinuch are anti vax. This won’t help.
Imagine saying “we’ll accept your child, but first we’ll give him 40 lashes”.
That’s how the anti-vaxxers view it.
So as rhetoric, ok, nice thread. If you mean it seriously, no dice.
So now you only trust rabbanim that hold like you!
And then you wonder why rabbanim are not coming out publicly, bec. they would be stoned, instead of applauded for their integrity!Hey, OP, I have a better idea! School is open to everyone, as long as they have a medical form filled out that they were vaccinated!
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