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I heard in a shiur from someone who knows his stuff, that sayin ‘Oh my G-D’ is ossur mideoyrayso. People don’t seem to know this.
OK, let’s start at the beginning. Who is this “someone who knows his stuff?”
The Wolf
(Not that I’m saying you’re wrong… on the contrary, you may well be right. But if you’re going to make the case, there’s no reason you shouldn’t make it more forcefully by attaching a name to the statement — and since he said it in a shiur, it should not be a problem to reveal the name.)
What about writing it in an online forum?
I always say/write: “OMGosh”.
I never hear that it’s an Issur miDeOryta. If I remember correctly, the Kuzari says that one cannot claim H’ as their own. That is one can say “Oh G-d”, without the word “my”. Only a prophet can claim some type of exclusivity due to a very close relationship.
Who is “someone who knows his stuff”?
Do you have a source for this?
Repeat after me: TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL…
Troll my Gosh.
My Rosh Yeshiva told us the same, years ago. It’s Lo Sisa…. you are saying H name for naught. OMG (the letters, as opposed to saying out the words) might be okay — I never asked, since you are not saying the word.
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That is one can say “Oh G-d”, without the word “my”. Only a prophet can claim some type of exclusivity due to a very close relationship.
On the contrary, you do it twice every day when you say the first verse of Sh’ma. And with every bracha.
The Wolf
thats “our” not “my”
however there are other places where we say elokai
thats “our” not “my”
I’m well aware of that. But it still addresses the person’s point.
The Wolf
not at all
the very quote you responded to specified that the problem was one of claiming exclusivity of a particular person , such as a prophet,, not a commonality to the entire Jewish people
the very quote you responded to specified that the problem was one of claiming exclusivity of a particular person
Fair enough. But “my” doesn’t always *have to* be exclusive.
I can talk about my family, my country and my religion at great length, but none of them are mine exclusively. When people say “Oh my God” I don’t think they mean “Mine and mine alone.” They mean it in the same collective sense as the other items I mentioned.
The Wolf
I was not aware that God is one of the names of the Rebono Shel Olam unless you think the Torah was written in English. 🙂
OMG, are you guys serious?
I didn’t know there was such a concept of an issur like this
i learnt you cannaot say Hashem’s name in any language. so its understood that you wouldnt be able to say OMG with His name
I always thought OMG stands for Oh My gosh!!
Besides is it really coming about of posessiveness. Rather put an apostrophe: Oh my, G-!!
I heard in a shiur from someone who knows his stuff, that sayin ‘Oh my G-D’ is ossur mideoyrayso. People don’t seem to know this.
I learned in a shiur and saw inside the Torah and meforshim that adding on to the Torah is an issur deoraisa. People don’t seem to know this.
it is just a very unintelligent thing to say!
“I heard in a shiur from someone who knows his stuff, that sayin ‘Oh my G-D’ is ossur mideoyrayso.”
According to many poskim, yes.
Sister Bear:
“I learned in a shiur and saw inside the Torah and meforshim that adding on to the Torah is an issur deoraisa.”
True. But I’m fairly certain that “lo sisa es shaim Hashem Elokecha la’shuv” was part of the Torah ever since Hashem gave it to us on Har Sinai.
shuli, “god,” “dios,” “dieu” and whatever else you can say in a language other than Hebrew are not the names of the Almighty any more than “hashem” is.
Why do you think “hashem” is used? Precisely to avoid the sin of blasphemy.
There are different issurim here as I see it. One is taking the name of the Lord in vain such as by saying the name I will write here instead as “adoshem.” Another is by actually pronouncing the sounds of the name spelled with the letter “yud” twice. Finally, would be uttering the “shem ha’meforesh.” OMG is not even close to any of these.
In God We Trust
If you think that’s assur, give me all pieces of green paper in your wallet on which this phrase is written and I assure you I will take care of them properly.
IF YOU DOUBT WHAT I’M SAYING, PLS ASK YOUR RESPECTIVE RAV. THIS IS TOO SERIOUS AN ISSUE TO MAKE CHOIZEK OF
Do you have a source for this?
How about you ask a rav and tell us who.
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