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March 10, 2016 12:12 am at 12:12 am #617390bigkhunaParticipant
Since I am on the Do Not Call List is a Yeshiva or organization who calls me in violation of dinah da malchuscha dina?
March 10, 2016 1:28 am at 1:28 am #1141727Mashiach AgentMemberWHat number do you call to get put on the do not call list?
March 10, 2016 1:28 am at 1:28 am #1141728JosephParticipantWe’ve had this discussion several times here. The law exempts non-profits, religious organizations and political callers from the do not call list. Those types of calls can legally be made to people on the DNC list.
March 10, 2016 1:33 am at 1:33 am #1141729☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantBridgette from Card Services is in violation, though.
March 10, 2016 1:33 am at 1:33 am #1141730Ex-CTLawyerParticipantNO:
4. What types of calls are not covered by the National Do Not Call Registry?
The do not call provisions do not cover calls from political organizations, charities, telephone surveyors, or companies with which a consumer has an existing business relationship.
This is from Federal Trade Commission National Do Not Call Registry website.
So, if that Yeshiva or organization is a tax exempt charity, or you have an existing relationship: you’ve donated in the , you went to school there 40 years ago, etc. They can call you legally.
This being a national election year, you may receive many annoying campaign calls…all legal.
March 10, 2016 3:42 am at 3:42 am #1141731charliehallParticipant“This being a national election year, you may receive many annoying campaign calls…all legal. “
Fortunately I live in deep blue NY so neither side is going to make much of an effort here. I feel sorry for the people in Florida.
March 10, 2016 5:04 am at 5:04 am #1141732yehudayonaParticipantI have received robocalls from a frum-owned furniture store. They are doubly illegal — not only to they ignore the Do Not Call list, they also don’t free the line when I hang up, which endangers me (suppose I had an emergency). I haven’t had a call from them lately, but then I no longer pick up calls from unrecognized caller IDs.
March 10, 2016 7:42 am at 7:42 am #1141733–ParticipantThis being a national election year, you may receive many annoying campaign calls…all legal.
That’s why I don’t provide my phone number when registering to vote.
March 10, 2016 1:06 pm at 1:06 pm #1141734zahavasdadParticipantThey dont get your phone number from voting records
they get it by dialing numbers in sequencial order
555-1111
555-1112
555-1113
etc
March 10, 2016 2:57 pm at 2:57 pm #1141735apushatayidParticipantthey use autodialers. they pick an npa-nxx for example 718-338- and have the computer dial sequentially 718-338-0000, 718-338-0001, 0002, 0003 etc… the computers can do this rather quickly. If the number is invalid the computer can detect the network signaling that indicates that and eliminates it from the database. If the network signaling indicates a busy signal, ringing with no answer or the jackpot an answer these numbers are marked. Telemarketers who are covered by the DNC list are supposed to make sure they always have the most updated version of the list and that those numbers are loaded into their database as do not calls. Of course we know how that goes.
March 10, 2016 5:20 pm at 5:20 pm #1141736MenoParticipant“they also don’t free the line when I hang up”
You mean if you hang up on them and then pick up your phone again you don’t get a dial tone?
Didn’t know that was possible
March 10, 2016 5:36 pm at 5:36 pm #1141737JosephParticipantThat’s how landlines work on a POTS to POTS call.
March 10, 2016 6:59 pm at 6:59 pm #1141738–ParticipantThey dont get your phone number from voting records
they get it by dialing numbers in sequencial order
No politician would do something that stupid. There are plenty of numbers that they don’t want to call.
They could get my number from another source but those are expensive compared to voting records.
March 10, 2016 7:28 pm at 7:28 pm #1141739JosephParticipantA large amount of political calls do in fact get made based on the phone number (some people) provided on their voter registration form, which is a public record and also associates party affiliation with the particular voter (and his phone number.)
March 10, 2016 8:17 pm at 8:17 pm #1141740zahavasdadParticipantSerial dialing is actually very cheap, Its a computer not a person so you can serial dial thousands of numbers daily cheaply and quickly
March 10, 2016 8:17 pm at 8:17 pm #1141741apushatayidParticipant“No politician would do something that stupid.”
You’d be surprised!
As an aside, you think it is difficult to buy a “list” for telemarketing purposes? When I added a phone line in the house, and of course my very first call was from a Telemarketer, I played along and agreed to be put on their mailing list etc. and I used the name Abraham Lincoln. Mr. Lincoln gets at least a dozen calls a week.
March 10, 2016 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #1141742Ex-CTLawyerParticipantJoseph……..
I’ve posted that I am an elected official in a Connecticut community. I ran this past November. We are able to get a list from the Registrar of voters that gives name, address, age, phone, party affiliation AND whether or not you voted in the past 3 elections for that office (in person or by absentee ballot).
We use that information to target potential voters who actually vite, not just are registered.
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