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  • July 18, 2013 1:29 pm at 1:29 pm #610109
    recipes
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    So it seems to say in Or Hachaim Siman 169 that if you go to a restaurant you have to offer your waiter a little bit of all of the food he serves you? Why aren’t we Makpid on this???

    July 18, 2013 3:28 pm at 3:28 pm #966285
    yeshivaguy45
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    Where does it say where you go to a restaurant? It says shamash. A shamash usually means a servant where you pay him to serve you, like he lives in your house or something to that effect. I don’t think we have this nowadays.

    July 18, 2013 4:20 pm at 4:20 pm #966286
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    Yeah but doesn’t the same reason apply to a waiter? What’s the difference?

    July 18, 2013 4:21 pm at 4:21 pm #966287
    WIY
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    I think a tip suffices even if there were such a Halacha. Either way the restaurants give them meals so they aren’t starving.

    July 18, 2013 5:01 pm at 5:01 pm #966288
    recipes
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    A tip won’t suffice see M”B for reason for Halacha.

    July 18, 2013 5:33 pm at 5:33 pm #966289
    yeshivaguy45
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    The Biur Halacha (in ?”? ???)gives a reason why the olam isn’t noheg to be careful nowadays. I think he’s saying that this din is only where he doesn’t eat from the foods that the ??? ???? gives him. But where the ??? ???? gives him to eat then you don’t have to give him first. I think anyways WIY is right. He’s not eating with you. He has his own food from the restaurant and he’s not eating with you. He’s just serving you. By a servant he eats with you and you’re responsible for feeding him. By a restaurant you’re not

    July 18, 2013 5:44 pm at 5:44 pm #966290
    Abba bar Aristotle
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    In the 70’s I worked as a waiter in catskill hotels. The owners were makpid that the waiters were fed hotel food.

    July 18, 2013 10:42 pm at 10:42 pm #966291
    recipes
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    yeshiva guy45 thanks for the Biur Halacha I didn’t notice it! I don’t think it answers the question I can’t imagine the waiter is allowed to eat whatever he wants in the kitchen.

    “He has his own food from the restaurant and he’s not eating with you.”

    Even if he would get food from the restaurant it wouldn’t help if he didn’t have all the types of food he’s serving. Also I find it hard to believe that all waiters get free supper.

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