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October 8, 2020 9:44 pm at 9:44 pm #1908285ywnjudyParticipant
Consider this a rhetorical notice.
To Republicans (and, uh, Democrats perhaps?I realize tomorrow is Friday Hoshana Rabba, but Donald Trump is supposed to be holding a virtual rally on the Rush Limbaugh radio show tomorrow.
Supposedly, they’re gonna display an Inbox later today (or tomorrow?) on the Limbaugh site, for people to send in their questions for Trump. This is an opportunity to request for the umpteenth time, for Trump to totally terminate Jonathan Pollard’s parole.
So if anyone happens to have some time tomorrow, posing this Q might be a mitzva and zechus to prevail against fearmongers and hate mongers , even if as usual nothing comes of it.
October 8, 2020 11:43 pm at 11:43 pm #1908471charliehallParticipantClemency for a convicted spy is exactly what will drive most of the few non-Jewish non-evangelical supporters Trump still has into the Biden camp.
October 8, 2020 11:43 pm at 11:43 pm #1908484Reb EliezerParticipantI have a problem with the submission form on the field I approve does not get recognized.
October 9, 2020 8:05 am at 8:05 am #1908540Reb EliezerParticipantgoogle Limbaugh to find his website. Sent message to commute his parole.
October 9, 2020 9:51 am at 9:51 am #1908546Reb EliezerParticipantBy the way I am a Democrat. When it comes to the mitzva of Pidyan Shavuyim party does not matter.
October 9, 2020 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm #1908575Yserbius123ParticipantIt is unlikely that the mitzva of pidyun shvuyim applies to a person who was imprisoned for knowingly violating multiple laws solely for their own gain and possibly giving dangerous information to enemies.
October 9, 2020 1:29 pm at 1:29 pm #1908578Reb EliezerParticipantHe originally did it for free and the Israelis offered him money as a reason not to discontinue. He was supposed be saved by them but they left him in the lurch. The Americans threw the book at him.
October 9, 2020 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #1908580🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantNow that we’ve listed his sins as the books are being sealed, does anyone want to volunteer to be next?
October 12, 2020 10:46 am at 10:46 am #1908938charliehallParticipant“The Americans threw the book at him.”
No, he actually copped a nice plea deal in which he would plea guilty to a single count of espionage when they could have thrown the book at him and at his then wife, who was also involved in the espionage.
But both Pollard and his then wife broke the terms of the plea deal by giving unauthorized interviews with the media. The judge was infuriated and threw the book at both of them. As he should have.
It should be noted that Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed after being convicted of spying for an ally. And Ethel was probably innocent.
October 12, 2020 10:47 am at 10:47 am #1908955GadolhadorahParticipantAsk any yid who holds or has sought to obtain a high level security clearance in the federal government about granting a pardon to someone who was paid to violate his oaths of secrecy to his country The fallout from this betrayal has been a continuing source of suspicion about dual loyalties for advancement ins some agencies. He is fortunate to be out of jail.
October 12, 2020 2:11 pm at 2:11 pm #1908991charliehallParticipantI had a job with a security clearance when Pollard was arrested. Every Jew with any connection to Israel whatsoever immediately became a security risk. Worse, many Jewish groups in America openly defended Pollard’s espionage.
And Donald Trump continues to promote this anti-Semitic dual loyalty canard to this day.
October 12, 2020 2:11 pm at 2:11 pm #1908999anonymous JewParticipantCharlie, by 1950 the Cold War had begun, the Soviet Union had already occupied Eastern Europe and was no longer an ally.
October 12, 2020 2:12 pm at 2:12 pm #1908996Reb EliezerParticipantThe Rosenbergs were not spying for an ally of the US but an advesary, the USSR. Whereas Pollard was spying for Israel being an ally of the US, where Israel should have received the information on its own. He set in jail for over twenty years where he became sick, so his movement should not be restricted as the information he passed on is not relevant anymore.
October 12, 2020 2:12 pm at 2:12 pm #1909004charliehallParticipant“When it comes to the mitzva of Pidyan Shavuyim party does not matter.”
1) Would it apply to a Jewish serial killer who has been convicted of multiple counts of first degree murder after fair court proceedings? (This does not apply to Pollard but it brings up the question of whether we are obligated to spring every Jewish criminal from prison. My rav o”h was a prison chaplain for 25 years and he hated prisons.)
2) Does it apply when the person is not, in fact, in prison? (Pollard was released almost five years ago, one day before he was supposed to have been released.)
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