Remembering even Chilonim are Jews

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    zahavasdad
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    I am someone else for the past week and the language is not english. I somewhat speak the Local language.

    Someone asked me a question about one of the attractions and I tried to answer in the local language, they did not understand, I then tried to answer in english, they still did not understand. I had given up when I heard the woman speak to her daughter in Hebrew. I actually can speak Hebrew although I dont understand it as well.

    I then answered the woman in Hebrew and she was shocked that I spoke it and it put a real smile on her face knowing there were jews everywhere including this place. She did invite me to Israel.

    Later on I met a man somewhere else in this place and I heard them speak Hebrew I answered them back in Hebrew and he was suprised. Again he wondered how I spoke it (I am disgusing my indentity in this place) Even the Chabad disguise themselves, but if you know what to look for its easy to pick them out (I saw a Shaliach here and he was super friendly)

    He also was proud to be Isareli and was equally proud that his son was going into the Army in 2 months

    All because I spoke some hebrew. Last year I met some Israelis elsewhere and they were shocked I spoke Hebrew and friendships were easily made.

    They all seemed proud of their heritage and wanted to make sure I visited Israel soon

    #893479
    shmoel
    Member

    J4J people are also Jewish.

    #893480
    akuperma
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    Increasing that isn’t the case. Among Jews who don’t keep Shabbos or Kashruth, the liklihood is that they will intermarry, and that half of those children will be goyim (and the other half will have no-Jewish surnames). This has been going on for several generations in the case of America (referring to East Europoean, even longer for the pre-civil war German immigrants or the pre-revolution Sefardim), and due to the high immigration of goyim with Jewish ancestors for the former USSR, it’s been a demographic factor in Eretz Yisrael for a generation.

    We are approaching the situation where the person you meet with Jewish ancestry is no more likely to be Jewish than any other non-frum person you meet.

    #893481
    Curiosity
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    shmoel, to the best of my knowledge, most J4J people are missionaries posing as quazi-Jews to help better their chances of converting us. J4J is a X-tian run movement whose sole purpose is to convert Jews. Also, many “Jews” who join them are only Jewish from the father’s side.

    #893482
    oomis
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    Also, many “Jews” who join them are only Jewish from the father’s side. “

    Tragically many of them are in fact Jews.

    #893483
    zahavasdad
    Participant

    I was reading a Kiruv article and it made the following statement

    what is the first thing someone says to you in an Orhtodox Synangogue, GET OUT OF MY SEAT

    What is the first thing someone says to you in a J4J church, Hello, can I invite you for Shabbos.

    Its seems this lesson is lost on people here

    #893484
    HaKatan
    Participant

    ZDad, that “lesson” may give food for thought, but it’s not at all accurate in a general sense, and it certainly doesn’t take into account the incredible chesed (and welcome) that a stranger would get in a typical shul.

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