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Is raw milk dangerous for adults with healthy immune systems?
How did folks drink milk for thousands of years if not raw?
It is boiled to kill the bacteria and while it may be healthy there are health concerns. Are you talking suckling it straight from the cow or goat, then there maybe halachic problems.
If the dairy is careful and doesn’t use milk from sick cows, then pasteurization would not be needed.
Joseph, what do you think happened? If the milk was bad, people got sick.
How did folks drink milk for thousands of years if not raw?
Cooked (is this a trick question?).
Abba s, what halachic problems?
Prior to pasteurization people often came down with various diseases from drinkng milk. The improvement in food processing are the reason that the life expectancy has increased from under 40 to over 70 (other factors have been the improvement in drugs, surgery and hygiene in general – pasteurization being part of the improvement in hygiene).
Joseph people used to die in their thirties of natural causes all the time then too whats your point?
Since I started getting raw milk my kids have been complaining of stomache aches much less and sleeping through the night better. Hashem put enzymes into milk that is killed by pasturization. It is known that calves that get pasturized milk get sick and die much more often then otherwise. The same is also true for mothersmilk,if you cook it you ruin it.
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Hashem also put harmful bacteria (or allowed them to get there by poor handling) into milk that is killed by pasturization.
” It is known that calves that get pasturized milk get sick and die much more often then otherwise. “
phew, its a good thing I’m not a calf
Incidentally which enzymes are beneficial to humans that are in milk and are killed by pasteurization?
as for the OP’s question, generally speaking no, it isnt dangerous worst case you’ll get listeria, salmonella, camplybacter but those are generally well tolerated by adults with a healthy immune system.
Except in pregnancy where listeria in particular has been known to lead to fetal death r”l.
There are some bacteria that can be devastating to healthy individuals such as Ecoli O157:H7 that has been linked to raw milk int he past, but undercooked ground beef is a much more common source
I drank raw milk.
There is nothing wrong with fresh milk if you live on a farm and it is not going directly from the udder to your mouth. The farmer is not suppose to be selling raw milk and if caught he will be fined. He can also be sued and lose his farm worth million of dollars.
where did you get raw milk? Because it’s pretty amazing. It has flavor! As milchig-sensitive Ashkenazi boy, I’ve found raw milk bothers me less.
Raw milk is legal in parts of the US. Here in Fl it is only legal in pet food, but I have had it elsewhere direct from the farm (while on a farm). I would not trust it anywhere else (and even on the farm I was nervous, but my kids wanted to try milk direct from the cow, so I successfully risked it).
As with all western issues (ie vaccination), there will always be dissenters, but for the vast majority of the public, raw milk is not safe, which is why it is illegal in all of Canada and many parts of the US.
Mr.Yidd23 -“Is raw milk dangerous for adults with healthy immune systems?”
In NJ:
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PBA You drank raw milk when you were a baby.
Miamilawyer If you ask a smoker is smoking safe? He will say all the studies that say it causes cancer are flawed.
@Abba. You are responding to a comment I made in another thread. I also do not think so. I think today, even those who smoke (mostly) would admit it is not good for you. They do it for the same reason I have that extra snack at night even though I know I should not.
ptcha: I get it in Israel. Since ads are not allowwed I cannot tell you where I get it from. Maybe the admin of this site can hook us up. BTW it is alo ileagal in Israel so I would want to make sure I know who you are before telling you where to get it
“Is raw milk dangerous for adults with healthy immune systems? “
Yes.
Some raw milk junk science promoting legislators in West Virginia celebrated the legalization of raw milk in that state by drinking some. They got sick.
“How did folks drink milk for thousands of years if not raw? “
Milk was rarely drunk. References in the Talmud to dairy products are mainly to cheese and yogurt.
Charlie -“Is raw milk dangerous for adults with healthy immune systems?”
“Yes”
Stick to medical statistics, not to politics!
That’s something you’re good at.
Charlie, is raw cheese safer than milk? You seem to be implying that.
1. Raw milk can include germs or viruses that make you sick.
2. Raw milk spoils quickly. Pasteurization is what delays rapid spoilage. Before pasteurization most milk that people consumer was produced very close to home and consumed immediately (e.g. you milked the cow in the morning, and drank the milk for breakfast). The ability to process and transport foods is what allowed cities to get large (imagine if every apartment in New York had to have its own livestock in the backyard).
3. Unless you milk the cow on your own farm, the raw milk you acquire is not fresh. The person asking the question needs to differentiate between drinking fresh milk from a healthy cow, or milk that has been processed, bottled and transported to market, possibly from a cow whose health might not have been closely monitored.
Health risks are risks, i.e., probablilities that something is harmful. Before pasteurization (which I think was started in the mid-19th century (Gregorian)), the risk of drinking milk was higher. Now it’s much lower.
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