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circusgirl: you have to try working on the good in her & that may lead to forgivness! i really should go ahead with posting a story of mine of someone that was able to forgive me, it was something really horrible that i did as a kid to make his life miserable! at some point i’ll post the long story in the deep thread post, cause it’s actually this time of year that he forgave me!
this may be just me, but if my friends went to my teacher & asked her to tell me something because they couldn’t say it to my face or at least pass me a note or something, i would be kinda annoyed (not the most accurate word but it’ll do) & hurt.
22oldgold: just be nice to her-she needs people. lying is just her way of crying out for help and getting attention. once she feels like she has real friends that she could trust and friends who like her for who she is, hopefully she’ll stop lying.
circusgirl: i don’t think lying is ever a good idea. but (if this is the case) try to get across the message that you are working on it & trying to forgive her & it’s just hard. don’t act like you’re just being mean & you don’t really care if you forgive her.
since jax brought this up, i’ll just say the thing that always helps me personally with forgiveness is understanding why & how the other person did what they did, imagining me in their place & putting myself in their shoes. understand that everyone makes mistakes and if they are really sorry & apologized, what more can they really do?
AOB: She is not supposed to know that they told their teacher. The teacher should find some way of dealing with it without the her knowing that they told the teavher.
i thought adam was created on rosh hashana.
nissan, I thought.
~a~
If I can even it out, I think theres a machlokes, which it seems there still is, my thinking is this. How could the world have been created in tishrei if birchas hachama takes place (when the sun returns to the place of creation) is always around nissan?
which mod is on now?
hey anonymisss, that does sound right now that you mention it.
There are two opinions – one says that Adam was created on alef Tishrei (which would mean that brias ha’olam began on chuf-hey elul) or that Adam was created on alef Nissan (and the first day of creation was on chuf-hey Adar.)
any rabbis on here wanna confirm? i’m 99% positive that i’m right.
Well it should be 2768 years ago exactly this wednesday seeing as how birchas hachama is the sun in the exact position it was on the first day it was created, so what month are we in now? (Dont make fun of me I really dont know the jewish months.)
aussie,
“be’nissan nigalu avoseinu ube’nissana asidin lehigael” (in nissan our fathers were redeemed and in nissan will be the final redemption ;))
we’re in nissan, auss. except it’s gonna be hard to figure out the math unless you can calculate the leap years.
AOB: She is not supposed to know that they told their teacher. The teacher should find some way of dealing with it without the her knowing that they told the teavher.
aussie: that’s so underhanded! i would NOT be happy if i ever found out my friends did that. i am not the type to get really angry at someone if they said something to me straight out, there’s no reason you can’t at least email me or write a note. i can’t speak for everyone though.
& we’re in nissan now.
aussie, we’re in nissan now, so that just strengthens my question. anyone?
AOB: Thats why she should never find out.
oh, so it’s okay to go behind your friend’s back & do something they don’t want you to as long as they don’t find out? i’m glad i only know you online – it’s hard to do anything behind someone’s back around here 😉
okm i take that back – i guess you just weren’t updating in order. sorry bout that.
I see my question is not getting answered anytime soon so I have another one. Of all the letter screen names (like qwertyuiop, asdfghjkl, and asdfghjk) why wasn’t there ever a name zxcvbnm? it’s just as bad, no?
Such a user exists according to user records. However, they have yet to post in the CR
that’s good, i can’t even imagine pronouncing that one 😉
mod: i recall the zxcvbnm once posting actually when i first joined!
My search showed membership from April 2008 with no posts
jax: busted!
mods, what sort of fancy technology and search engines do you have that we dont? I’m curious what it’s like to be a mod… (I wasn’t asking to be one, I was just saying I was curious, and thats not a second sn 😉 ) seems like none of the intellectuals here can answer my question about birchas hachama for me…
AOB, a while back you asked about suffering, if it’s better for harder for the family of someone suffering if they suffer or die, (I hope that was the question). My answer is I think when there is continuous suffering, it’s hard for the family. When someone dies, it may not be that there is more suffering, but that it’s in one shot, which will definitely make it seem like its worse. Overall suffering though, will probably amount to about the same thing except that one may be easier because it’s spread over time and not done in one shot.
SORRY FOR RAMBLING!!! 🙂
kapusta did you watch the Oorah CD? It has a whole presentation on Birchas Hachama. I think there is a machlokes in the Gemara and one person says in Tishrei and the other Nissan. They paskin that we go according to Tishrei for Shanim and Nissan I think for the creation of the world, I think.
kapusta: that was sort of the question, but it was specifically about mental deterioration (at least i think that’s what i’m trying to say). because if the person has lost personality or a lot of mental ability that they once had, i think it’s way worse, they’re not themselves anymore! if someone dies, you can be comforted that the conscious part of them, the part you really cared about, is still them just in a different place. but if they’re not them anymore, they’re lost! where did the real them go??!
I know you say a freilechen chanuka or a freilechen purim but what do you say for pesach?
auss, it’s
a lichtegen chanuka
a freilechen purim and
a chag kasher v’sameach 😉
just kidding – i forgot
Thanks for all your suggestions!
Jax: The problem is that the person did something that really changed my life. The person doesn’t think that what they did was wrong and there really is no way to forgive them. The only reason they asked for forgiveness was because they want to keep a relationship with me. It’s not someone who I can completely shut out of my life so it’s kind of hard.And there is plenty of good in the person but what they did was much worse than anything good they have to them.
an open book: Lying is definetely not a good idea but the truth is that I really don’t want to forgive them and anyone in my situation would say the same. I don’t really have a great relationship with the person and it’s not that I am being mean- in truth, what they did has caused a lot of hardships in my life so I don’t know if I will ever be able to forgive them. As to the reason why they did what they did- there is absolutely no valid excuse in the world for it and even if I tried, I would not be able to put myself in their place. They aren’t really sorry and no they didn’t apologize; it was more of a “can you forgive me so that I don’t look so bad” kind of thing. They don’t think that what they did was wrong so they aren’t sorry about it.
?? ??? ???? 🙂
aussie, freilichen means happy, so it would really go for anything, but the accepted is a chag kasher v’sameach but a gutten yom tov is also fine!
mod re: zxcvbnm–sorry for making you check, i think i once saw a post then in the YWN homepage!
circusgirl: what i did to the person that now forgave me, was unthinkable too(it changed his life), i was young & extremely brainless! maybe in time you would be able to forgive her, like this person was able to forgive me! it took me years, to have the courage to call him, to ask michillah! when i finally did call him, he honestly b’lev shalaym said he already forgave me years ago!
by the way, moish, i asked your question about the mah nishtana at the seder here
moish: I got an answer for your question. I dont remember who says it but he says that the ma nishtana is only for people who know the seder already and it is so they ask questions but for people who dont know the seder and would ask these questions they wouldnt need to say the ma nishtana.
AOB: I asked it too 🙂
let’s hear what answer you got…
and the answer was…?
~a~
oh well i got two answers – both different.
the first one was the one i predicted: That he learned to ask the questions in school. (of course he learned the answers too, but no one bothered to answer that)
then my dad said that it used to not be a written out hagada – they used to just ask at one point or another during the seder on their own. when they sat down and actually wrote out what people should say they put it in the beginning because it made sense according to the flow of things.
i should just add that my dad said there used to be a fifth question: Why do we eat only tzli (roasted) tonight?
they took it out later on because we don’t have korban pesach anymore.
Why does it make more sense at the beggining than at the end?
well, because the whole magid is answering those questions. and i’m guessing they figured people wouldn’t stick around and talk about yetzias mitzrayim after the meal, so magid is in between kiddush and shulchan orech.
moish: Makes sense, but why not right before shulchan orech? That would make the most sense.
I got another question. Whats up with the nursery rhymes at the end of the seder?
ah! i actually got an answer this year! you mean chad gadya?
If it is random then it can go in because the thread is for random things, but the fact that it is meant random things means that anything random is not random because that is what this thread is meant for. So if it is random then it becomes not random because it is exactly what is supposed to be under this thread.
Another question. Did you follow?
Why is this thread randomer than all other threads? Does it have anything to do with being slaves in Egypt to Pharoh?
moish: Yes.
mod42: It has to do with the goat that my father bought for 2 zuzim that was eaten by a cat that was hit with a stick by a cow that was told by god to tell the malach hamaves to put out the flame that was burning the water.
Something like that.
aussie, i followed for about 30 seconds and then realized that i got your point, but if i would continue reading you would just be messing with my brain… so i stopped. i think i got the point, though.
it’s basically the history of klal yisroel throughout the times. from yitzchok and yakov till moshiach. you want me to run through it?
i love those songs at the end of the haggadah!
moish: I meant whats the point of them? (and it includes all of them. Echad mi yodeah, The one with the word Hu a lot of times. Basically the whole nirtzah.) What does it have to do with leaving Egypt?
Jax: Yeh I know me too. They saved the best for last.
I think Nirtzah is supposed to be about the future geula, after telling the story of yitzias mitzrayim we now hope for the future geula to come, hence, “lishana haba” and the other songs.
Mod42: That makes sense. Thanks.
it all has to do with emuna. that’s what it’s all about. echad mi yodeah is all the basics. chad gadya is the history and foundation… and why are you asking me?? i’m not you dad – why didn’t you ask him?
Does playing poker come under the heading of gambling?
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