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November 24, 2011 6:10 pm at 6:10 pm #600811lightitupMember
What would you say about reading your friends text messages or contact list if they let you play around with their phone and normally don’t write personal things via text, and don’t tell you not to do so? And what if thats not OK and you succumbed to the temptation. Is there are a way to do Teshuva as well as should you admit to them what you did, or not?
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November 24, 2011 6:33 pm at 6:33 pm #829777Sam2ParticipantIt’s under the Cherem of Rabbeinu Gershom, as well as an Issur D’Oraisa, probably several.
November 24, 2011 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #829778mik5Participantit’s assur to read other people’s mail. if you can’t resist the yetzer hara, don’t touch other people’s phones.
i’m not sure about t’shuva, but it’s just not a nice thing to do – since the person trusts you and gives you his or her phone
November 24, 2011 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #829779popa_bar_abbaParticipantYou should not do it.
As far as teshuva, I wouldn’t worry about that too much- just stop doing it. It isn’t nice to your friends.
November 24, 2011 7:05 pm at 7:05 pm #829780MichaelCMemberRabbeinu Gershom made a Takana against reading people’s post or letters
November 24, 2011 7:16 pm at 7:16 pm #829781sam4321ParticipantRabbeinu Gershom instituted some bans and one of them is not to read someones private mail.(same one who banned polygamy)
November 24, 2011 7:29 pm at 7:29 pm #829782HaLeiViParticipantAn easy way out, if it applies, is to borrow it again for the sake of and with permission for, reading the texts. If you get permission easily, it won’t be a big deal to appologize for looking without permission.
November 24, 2011 7:48 pm at 7:48 pm #829783real-briskerMemberIts equalivent to reading a letter they wrote or recived from someone. it’s one of the Cheriem D’irabenu Gerson.
November 24, 2011 8:12 pm at 8:12 pm #829784Sam2ParticipantSince everyone is misquoting it here, I will make an important point. Reading someone else’s mail is an Issur D’Oraisa (either Nezek, Geneivas Da’as, maybe others). Rabbeinu Gershom did not create the Issur. He just made it stronger by adding a Cherem.
November 24, 2011 8:55 pm at 8:55 pm #829785sam4321ParticipantSam2: No one is misquoting anything. The reason why the cherem was instituted is a topic of debate. There is a shita which says if the proper nusach of the specific seal parutz geder… is not on it then one could read it. So the initial source is Rabbenu gershom. Even if the recipient gives permission to read it is still not so pashut another could read it,maybe the sender is makpid.
November 25, 2011 3:44 am at 3:44 am #829786pascha bchochmaParticipantMore descriptive thread titles would be nice.
November 25, 2011 4:17 am at 4:17 am #829787Sam2ParticipantSam4: Everyone always assumes (by all Cherems of Rabbeinu Gershom) that the Cherem created the Issur. I am pointing out that that is not necessarily the case.
November 25, 2011 6:07 am at 6:07 am #829788kvodhatorahMemberpapa why would you not worry about the tshuva?
November 25, 2011 6:30 am at 6:30 am #829789sam4321ParticipantSam2: My point is exactly that,the issur which you mention according to some was only from the cherem and not before.
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