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    DovidHamelech
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    Putin has made the war in Ukraine, he kills innocent people made the west give weapons to Ukraine so now the west has less weapons for itself. What is Putin playing at? You can’t just invade a country just cause the leader of a country feel likes it. If Putin would be assassinated, someone far greater would take the job. Imagine if China decides to invade India, how would the world react?

    #2315771
    ujm
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    The Torah expressly permits nations to invade their neighbors to increase their territory and/or natural resources.

    #2315774
    akuperma
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    Russia and China (along with allies such as Iran and North Korea) believe that if you can just invade a country and conquer it, why not. It is highly probable that the strong Euro-American reaction to the Ukraine invasion convinced other members of the “axis of evil”. to put off plans to invade their neighbors. If Putin is successful the countries next on the “hit list” include Taiwan, Philipines, South Korea, the Baltic countries along with Poland and Romania, and Israel.

    China is unlikely to invade India (other than mild arguments over uninhabited mountain tops). Idea has nuclear weapons and the size of India would make foreign occupation difficult.

    #2315787
    Kuvult
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    Putin wants what every leader of Russia (& the world) wants. It’s called “Strategic Depth”
    Forcing your enemy to fight (& be worn down) just getting to your territory. Why didn’t Hitler take Moscow? Because the fews weeks fighting to get to Russia was long enough for the “Russian Winter” to set in.
    Why did Japan attack America? Because they didn’t like that the American military was a few hundred miles from Tokyo while the Japanese military was over 6,000 miles from Washington DC. Japan wanted “Strategic Depth” by getting rid of the US Navy’s Pacific Fleet.
    Look at where this war is being fought. It’s Eastern Ukraine that juts into Russia. Times change, leaders change & goals change. Putins fear (& rightfully so) is at some point in the future Ukraine joins NATO & NATO sends troops to Eastern Ukraine on the Russian border. How far is it from Eastern Ukraine to Moscow? & How far is it from Russia to Paris, London or Washington? Putin wants (at the very least) eastern Ukraine as a buffer zone to give Russia “Strategic Depth” against NATO.
    I’m obviously not saying I support this or it was the right thing to do but we should recognize the Chochma of Putins actions.

    #2315952

    This is a problem that many ancient empires experienced – if you expand, especially in areas without natural barriers (Russian steppes, Middle Eastern deserts and valleys), you are not able to defend borders so you are forced to expand further to defend what you already acquired.

    Of course, this all sounds extremely silly in our times, when humanity has enough resources to satisfy most people with IQ higher than 120. UN should take an island – Cuba, for example, and settle there all dictators and gang leaders, and dedicate, say a trillion dollars a year to support parades, parties, women, and whatever else they want for these sick people.

    #2316128
    fandango443
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    Putin funds antisemitic terrorists through the oil trade in Iran and Syria. Putin is behind the propaganda campaign to make you think Democrats are friendly with the IRI when it’s really Republicans. Yes, Putin and his American friends (Republicans) are not worth it.

    #2316274
    ujm
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    AAQ: You’re trying to give a boich svara reason for the Halacha and then be dismissive of the Halacha because you’ve judged that the reason your theory of why the Halacha is the Halacha is no longer relevant?

    #2316413
    mdd1
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    Ujm, are absolutely wrong. It is a be’feirushe Gemora. I am not going to go into it more.

    #2316422

    ujm, a different thread, maybe?

    #2316432
    Sam Klein
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    so you the author of this letter saying that Putin started this current Russian Ukraine war that is already 2.5 years old Rachmana litzlan. Did I read your post correctly? I think you forgot the most important thing a yid needs to remember and the is that Hashem runs the entire world from large countries to tiny cities to each person individually. Do you even know now today over 2.5 years since this war started and is still tragically going on in full action what the message DIRECTLY FROM HASHEM is of this current Russian Ukraine war?

    Every tragedy has a wake up call message directly from Hashem that you’re not going to find in any sefer in the world or read in any newspaper from a Gadol Hador or speaker saying about the tragedy. And neither is it from me a Internet businessman writer.

    THE SHOCKING MESSAGE
    World War 1, World War 2 And the Current War of the Invasion of Russia into Ukraine which can Chas Vshalom bring the world today to another world War 3 if we don’t wake ourselves up to serious Teshuva and Achdus together As soon as possible
    All 3 Wars if you put the numbers of the date each war started they all come out to the same Gematria numerical Value number of 68
    World War 1 started on July 28 1914
    That’s 7+28+19+14=68

    World War 2 started on September 1 1939
    That’s 9+1+19+39=68

    Current Russian invasion to Ukraine War started on February 24 2022
    That’s 2+24+20+22=68

    Do you know what’s the Numerical Value of 68? Chaim/Life and what is the Message from Hashem? Hashem runs the entire world from every country to every tiny city to every person’s life-as mentioned above-and it’s all in the Power and Hands of Hashem the decree of every person like we say on Rosh Hashanah every year Lchaim Vlo Lamavess. (To life and not vice versa to death Chas Vshalom) When Klal yisroel is not doing Teshuva and forgets who really runs the entire world then Hashem has to remind us who is the real ruler of the world by making world wars happen R”L with millions of lives being killed.

    With rosh Hashana just around the corner may we all remember this shocking message DIRECTLY FROM HASHEM so that if we show Hashem that we accept Hashems wake up call for serious teshuva and Achdus together as one loving nation then Hashem can send mashiach already bkarov.

    I wish everyone a ksiva vachasima tova ahead. Yes filled with coffee fresh from the YWN coffee room which serves better than Starbucks coffee.

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