Purim

“and you have no desire to see how you can help? ”

Well, you made this up too.

Thanks for butchering the moshol. Did you really not understand that it was just to explain how point of reference effects perspective or was it just a troll tactic to avoid real conversation?

You are shocked why i argue you on something you know well, yet have no problem arguing on things you don’t know much about. My job is reading between the lines and your omission of responding to valid points while distorting other points over and over clearly indicates either an inability to converse, a lack of desire to be corrected, or trolling. All three are, to me, pointless conversations. So in a sense, I guess, you win, as winning for you means diversion from discussing that which you don’t understand, or being called out.

Common, got it. To clarify, not to brag, CPCU makes you a local Rav in statistics, while my qualification is closer to a minor posek – developing and evaluating new statistical procedures. for example, when your training data (think, Pfizer Phase 3) is not the same as later real-life data. It does not mean I can do your job, of course (same as a yeshiva teacher may not be the best in running a local congregation). Furthermore, given your impressive qualifications, you could definitely apply them in defending your position. Maybe your false humility prevents you from using your skills.

And, back to paskening – your fear of modernishe tzudikim seems to prevent you to hear my arguments. I am calling you to dig deeper into your positions, and positions of your Rav/Posek, and I hear nothing in response.

Maybe an example below will help clarify that reasoning behind a teshuva is important:
1940, Jews in Vilno, most ran away from Poland, are sandwiched between Nazi and Soviet armies, the latter poised to enter Lithuania in a couple of months. The question was asked of R Grozdinski – should limited (Sugihara?) visas be given to older Rabbis (who will be quickly arrested by Soviets) or to younger Rabbis (whose children will be sent to Soviet school and lost). He answered – the older ones, with the explanation: (1) they will be better able to help the remaining ones when they reach US, (2) they’ll be of better use to American Jews. The explanation definitely focused the mind of those who asked and is something for us to ponder …

 “and I hear nothing in response”

Except you did, you just didn’t like it.

You keep thinking that saying it over and over will somehow make it acceptable that hearing old reasons allows us to reapply them to new cases based on what we consider parallels. Besides potentially being nogea bdavar, it’s not in our hands to do so. That’s what you don’t get. You think your smarts allows you to some permission based on deep understanding. You don’t get that your role is to understand deeply, and still turn to your rav for direction. It’s not yours to manipulate, extrapolate and apply. Period. Sorry you don’t like it. Stop trying to make it go away.

@always_ask_questions, We’ve been through the mask debate, all five pages of it, and we came to a mutual agreement (at least I think so).
Why you are still posting about it is beyond me.

“opinions of modern orthodox posters who don’t hold of daas torah”

I am reminded of the old joke that we modern orthodox don’t hold of Daas Torah because Rav Soloveitchik z’tz’l told us not to.

Syag,
sounds like you went to the same BY as some of my daughters, where “modern” was used as a generic put-down. There is no connection between O-O and Rav Soloveichik’s Torah. Whether his approach allowed some of his followers go into unreasonable positions is a legitimate question, of course.

I would just like to add that one of my classmates did move on to become a musser zogger.