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July 10, 2013 7:57 pm at 7:57 pm #610015WIYMember
Please post recipes. This is a request to anyone who has any good and easy quick supper recipes that are dairy or pareve. Thanks!
July 10, 2013 10:53 pm at 10:53 pm #965610☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantBroiled salmon:
1) Take a salmon steak or a piece of filleted salmon.
2) Add lemon juice and garlic powder
3) Broil
July 10, 2013 11:04 pm at 11:04 pm #965611popa_bar_abbaParticipantPizza.
1. Call pizza shop.
2. Order pizza.
3. Eat pizza.
July 10, 2013 11:56 pm at 11:56 pm #965612rebdonielMemberI just threw together a quick dish. I took some fresh beefsteak tomatoes I had in abundance, took the seeds out, and chopped them, with chopped red and orange pepper, Vidalia onion, and zucchini. I mixed with salt, pepper, paprika, oregano, mixed Italian herbs, fennel, minced garlic, and have them roasting on 400 with some olive oil cooking spray.
When it comes out, I will mix most of the roast with pasta for my family, and I will have some of the roasted veggies atop some salad greens with a twist of lemon and some Balsamic for a really low calorie dinner (no more than 100-150).
July 11, 2013 12:24 am at 12:24 am #965613jewishfeminist02MemberCarbs are not bad! Whole grain pasta is good for you (in moderation, of course, as with anything else).
For pareve: start with a package of Morningstar or Tofurky sausage and your choice of vegetables (I like to use tomato and onion). Cut the “sausage” and vegetables into wedges and thread onto skewers. Grill (I use a grill pan, but you could easily grill these outdoors) and serve with your favorite sauce.
For milchig: mix eggs, cream or half-and-half, and cheese (I like goat cheese, but you could also use cream cheese or ricotta). Add some cooked vegetables (I use mushroom and onion). Add fresh or dried herbs. Sprinkle with mock bacon bits if you like those. Pour into a 2 qt. dish, cover, and bake at 350 for 25-30 minutes. Now you have a crustless quiche! I love this one because it’s so versatile and can be adjusted based on the ingredients you already have.
July 11, 2013 1:56 am at 1:56 am #965614rebdonielMemberI decided to take the roasted veggies, sautee all of them with more onions, pepperoncini flakes, garlic, and oregano and other herbs, as well as special EVOO from Abruzze, and I mixed this with the campanelle. I topped it with a good hail of fresh grated Pecorino Romano from the chunk (none of that powdery cansiter stuff for us!) and some chopped fresh Italian parsley. It was a mechaye, and one of the best dishes I ate in a while.
Morningstar Farms products are certified Dairy, and shouldn’t be served at meat meals, le toelet harabim. They could be DE, but that would require checking with the OK.
July 11, 2013 2:58 am at 2:58 am #965615TheGoqParticipantThis isn’t a meal but a nice healthy dessert i recently made a fruit salad you can use under ripe fruit for this because when its all mixed together the cut fruit make the other fruit ripen
3 plums i used the kind that is light colored inside and very sweet
2 large peaches skin on
a bunch of strawberries cut in small pieces (a little smaller than the other fruit is cut)
about half of a granny smith apple cut small
put cut fruit in a large covered bowl and refrigerate overnight (the longer the better) before serving cut a banana just cut half inch slices and cut those in 4 and add to the salad serves four very easy and yummy if you want to top with a little fat free whipped cream go for it.
July 11, 2013 3:21 am at 3:21 am #965616sharpMemberBaked ziti. Doesn’t really need a recipe. Cook the ziti per package directions. Place in baking pan. Mix with marinara pasta sauce and shredded mozzarella cheese. Finally, top with shredded mozzarella cheese. And bake.
July 11, 2013 4:03 am at 4:03 am #965617jewishfeminist02Member“Morningstar Farms products are certified Dairy, and shouldn’t be served at meat meals, le toelet harabim. They could be DE, but that would require checking with the OK.”
I believe the OP was looking for recipes to serve during the Nine Days, hence the request for dairy or pareve.
Incidentally, Tofurky sausage is pareve.
July 11, 2013 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm #965618TheGoqParticipantJust a note on my recipe above i added the granny smith apple for its tartness which i felt would be a nice counter to the sweeter fruits but you dont want to go overboard with it use less than half an apple.
July 11, 2013 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm #965619rebdonielMember“For pareve: start with a package of Morningstar or Tofurky sausage and your choice of vegetables.”
You lumped Morningstar Farms together with parve. Somebody may then make the mistake of making an umdena that it’s parve, when it’s milchig. I was once at a fleshig seuda (Shabbos dinner) where Morningstar Farms products were served (crumbles, I believe) on meat plates and cooked in meat baking dishes. The poor baal habos didn’t realize that their entire kosher plates, etc. were compromised as a result! The crumbles, in particular, are NOT vegan, and do contain halav gamur. The poor balebusste then had a big problem on her hands, after I brought this to her attention.
Lesson learned: In kashrut, you have to read labels and never assume. We need to do what the Law specifies, not any more, not any less.
July 11, 2013 4:25 pm at 4:25 pm #965620jewishfeminist02MemberA God-fearing Jew will not extrapolate from my post that Morningstar can be used in meat meals during the year, without checking the label. I am sure no one is cooking with their meat dishes during the 9 days.
July 11, 2013 4:27 pm at 4:27 pm #965621ToiParticipantcereal
pour daganei boker into bowl.
add so mch sugar to make it taste like sweet cardboard
add three percent milk to make it taste like creamy sweet cardboard
serve
July 11, 2013 4:34 pm at 4:34 pm #965622rebdonielMemberPeople do make siyumim and whatnot during this period, and abstaining from meat is not strictly Talmudically required in this period (Oral Torah Judaism demands that during shavua shechal bo, one may not cut one’s hair or do laundry- mTa’anit 4:7, and a beraita in bYevamot 43a also forbids nesuin during shevua shechal bo. While the other customs of mourning may not share the same force of law, some common practices are nevertheless based on rabbinic sources, and would include not eating meat or drinking wine. To quote one of my teachers, “Because of the rabbinic designation of these activities as “simha” most Jews avoid the above activities during the nine days where possible. But note that the Mishnaic idiom “me-ma’atin” – to minimize – is more of a discouragement than an outright prohibition. For a parallel, Rav contrasts the roles of simha for Av with its role for the month of Adar and Purim: “Just as when Av enters we minimize simha, so too when Adar comes we increase (marbin) be-simha” (bTa’anit 29a-29b). There is no source, to my knowledge, which states that one must eat meat, drink wine, buy new clothing or get married during the month of Adar because the word “marbin” does not mean one is obligated to do any of these things, only that one should do more than usual. Similarly, while not doing any of the above actions would certainly be considered me-ma’atin, such an extreme is not required during the nine days (excluding that which is prohibited during shavua shehal bo.”)
July 11, 2013 4:40 pm at 4:40 pm #965623jewishfeminist02MemberVery nice, but a) you’re quoting Sephardi halacha, which is not applicable to 99% of the Coffee Room, and b) you can give me all the sources in the world, but the minhag is to abstain from meat entirely, period end of story, barring of course a medical condition in which case the person would for sure be very careful about checking labels.
I am sure no one is going to serve vegetarian meat during a siyum which falls on the 9 days (which, imo, is completely designed to cater to people’s taivos). It would completely defeat the purpose.
July 11, 2013 4:45 pm at 4:45 pm #965624writersoulParticipantMy favorite lunch is fried baked ziti (okay, not the best way to put it…)
You just fry your pasta, sauce and cheese instead of baking or microwaving it. You can add whatever you want- from veggies to salsa (probably instead of the sauce, in which case it’s a bit like pasta nachos) to falafel balls to whatever you like.
Even if you’re not as into BCBs (burnt crunchy bits, the king of the food groups) as I am, I still find that it comes out kind of different when you compare it to baking or microwaving.
Try latkes! There are a million and one different recipes online for all types- old-fashioned potato, fruit, vegetable, cheese, the works.
Another great recipe- spicy cheese fries. (OBVIOUSLY, I do not make this kind of food ALL the time, but it’s nice to have sometimes.) Cut up the potatoes, peel them if you want, then add Baby Bam seasoning. (It’s a less spicy version of Cajun seasoning, but as my mom first started making this when we were little, we weren’t really up to the big stuff yet and this is still great. If you want it spicier, you can add cayenne pepper.) Mix
and sprinkle some on the fries. Leave the rest for a rainy day. Bake them however you like to bake fries- we don’t usually make them very french fry-ish, so maybe check this one out on your own if that’s what you’d prefer. If anyone has any good tips as far as French fry baking/frying is concerned, that would probably be great.
July 11, 2013 5:26 pm at 5:26 pm #965625rebdonielMemberA) I didn’t know the gemara was Sephardic (although it was compiled in Bavel), and B) Since when is minhag brecht a din? Jewish law is not a democratic process determined by what people happen to be doing. It is determined through an objective, binding process and procedure, as described by the Rambam in his Haqdama le Mishneh Torah. While I believe that common restrictions against eating meat, drinking wine, etc. in the 9 Days can be meritorious, they don’t have the valence of law.
more important than whatever practices we do or don’t do during the three weeks and nine days, it is more important to remember why we observe such customs in the first place. Ostensibly the point of minimizing simha is to feel the loss of the Temple and in feeling this loss we should and presumably feel compelled to correct the problems which led to the exile in the first place. If not listening to music or watching movies leads one to reflect on and improve one’s own behavior, then such measures are appropriate for that person. But these customs of mourning are not intrinsically valuable and certainly cannot be viewed as a substitute for introspection or self-improvement – let alone as an excuse to demean other Jews. In fact this message was already stated by Yeshayahu in the Haftara of Hazon, which is read the Shabbat before 9 Av. In the time of the destruction of the first Temple, the Jews dutifully performed the ritual acts of bringing sacrifices, but treated each other so poorly that their ritual observance was disregarded with God even declaring “who asked you to do this?” (Is. 1:12).
If God can ask “who asked you to do this?” for the sacrifices which he commanded, then such disdain would certainly be applicable to our own invented customs.
Practically, I do enjoy the array of non-meat options available during the 9 days, but when people enshrine customs to a place above the halakha, that reflects base vernacular religious tendencies, which are apt to hinder, rather than elevate, spiritual consciousness, as indicates in the words of the Prophet. Also, it is important people know which foods are dairy and which are truly pareve, to avoid scenarios such as the one I mentioned above.
July 11, 2013 5:48 pm at 5:48 pm #965626Torah613TorahParticipantCheese bourekas: Buy frozen cheese bourekas. Put into toaster. Take them out. Eat.
July 11, 2013 5:50 pm at 5:50 pm #965627seeallsidesParticipantpasta with fried breadcrumbs – boil pasta/drain- fry breadcrumbs in butter, add pasta to fried breadcrumbs, mix over low flame.
breaded flounder (baked-cover w/mayonnaise and then breadcrumbs – (fried – cover w/egg/flour/breadcrumbs and fry on both sides-like shnitzel)
pita filled w/tuna salad and Israeli salad
lasagna – long and layered, or lasagna rollups-basically boil lasagna (add salt and a smidgen of oil),drain,layer w/tomato sauce mixture and diff cheeses and bake.
July 11, 2013 6:37 pm at 6:37 pm #965628☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantB) Since when is minhag brecht a din?
That’s true l’kula, but k’chumra, “minhag Yisroel Torah”. (Does anyone know a source for that?)
July 12, 2013 7:09 pm at 7:09 pm #965629jewishfeminist02Memberrebdoniel, I am not trying to argue halacha with you. You’re missing the point. I know that one can eat meat during the nine days and still be in accordance with halacha. I am just saying that since the widespread minhag is to abstain from meat in Ashkenazi circles, and since most CR posters are Ashkenazi, I really don’t think anyone reading this is going to serve Morningstar on meat dishes during the nine days. I also don’t think anyone reading this is going to be careless enough to assume that something is pareve based on a post here without checking the label. Okay, so you know someone who was careless. Fine. I am sure they simply forgot to check, not that they deliberately thought “Oh, so and so told me it was pareve, therefore I don’t HAVE to check”.
No need to make a whole balagan.
July 15, 2013 11:54 am at 11:54 am #965630ToiParticipantDY- rashi in RH i think on yud ches amud beis towards the bottom says that because klal yisroel was noheg chanuka for a long time and everyone was noheg to treat it as a quasi-y’t therefore it is kitorah. but the end of rashi says ulichain eino nachon livatlo, which would be mashma that this concept isnt mamash mamash. im remembering, not quoting.
July 15, 2013 10:07 pm at 10:07 pm #965631WIYMemberI want to thank everyone who posted recipes. Have an easy fast.
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