Porush (NOT) for Mayor

Believe me I wish it wasnt true too!

Please feel free to ask ANY Boyaner Chossid if this is fact!

Today the court ruled against Deri’s candidacy and now we all await to hear Moron HaRav Eliashiv’s psak. So far he has refused to back Porush for the above reasons (the official line is because of his lack of chances of winning but previously in other elections HaRav Eliashiv did rule to vote for certain losers as a matter of principle to protest against those who disregard daas Torah). It seems from reading between the lines in Hamodia (Hebrew version) that Reb Yacov Litzman has made peace with Porush, and Ger will vote for him though nothing has been officially declared yet. Even if Degel HaTorah do decide to vote for Porush for lack of a better alternative, I cannot see the 1000’s of litvish bochurim and yingerleit bothering to campaign and work for him. So far the street campaigning is being done by the Dati Leumi (Mizrachi) boys and girls at main junctions etc. Rav Eliashiv’s great granson is leading a “blank” campaign calling on all residents to place a blank paper in the ballot box. I can understand him….

Dear umm,

I read your comments with great interest (actually I expected such feedbacks, I wonder why it took so long….) and whilst I accept that there can be different and sometimes opposite opinions amongst our Gedolim, I cannot accept that one may not publicise the words and Daas Torah of one Gedol because of your reasons that are based on emotion and ignorance. If the Boyaner Rebbe can publicly call out the same cry that I wrote then obviously you are making a serious mistake. Rav Eliashiv too has made his opinion very clear to his talmidim without whitewashing anything so please open your sefer Chofetz Chaim and start learning what loshon horah is….

Believe me I have nothing personal against Meir Porush, I have never spoken to him or had dealings with him nor for that matter with Uri Lupoliansky or Aryeh Deri either. I am not a political activist in any form but Yerushalayim is SO dear to me that I cannot standby and watch its destruction in the hands of fake “chareidi” self-serving politicians.

For a start check up Chofetz Chaim ??? ?’ ???? ?’ ???”? ??.

I dont know who you are or where you are from but I imagine you are from chutz lo’oretz and you cannot fathom the situation in its true reality as you are used to the goyim being bad and us Jews (with rare exceptions) being a cut above. Unfortunately in Israel some of the “frum” askonim have fallen to levels on par with the mafia and worse.

By the way, I assume you mean “machshil” not “michshal”.

Gmar chasimo tova

After everything I have written and “complained”, and after reading on YWN that the Gedolim are going to decide shortly who to back as the chareidi mayoral candidate, I declare that if they unanimously (I mean by that Rav Eliashiv shlita together with the Gerrer Rebbe shlita and the Belzer Rebbe shlita and other main Rabonim and Admorim in Yerushalayim) declare Meir Porush to be their choice then I will “hold my nose” and put Meir Porush in the ballot box. It will be very hard but that will be my nisayon…

Dear “Citizenofberlin”,

I enclose a copy of my answer to you on the “General News”:

As usual, dear “citizen of Berlin”, you attempt to sway the discussion to subjects convenient to you and to ignore the thrust of the points.

1) From my experience anyone who tries to accuse anyone else on this YWN site of nazism (using Der Sturmer etc., “antisemitic” etc.) has admitted that they have no valid answers to the points raised. Well you have validated my theory yet again!

2) Whilst I too do not dress too western myself and I am proud of it, I can fully understand a chiloni who considers it strange and a little crazy. When I visit chutz lo’oretz I cringe at some of the clothing, hairstyles and even shoes that I see people there wearing and I certainly wouldnt vote for a President/Mayor/Congressman or anything, someone dressed like that because I consider the gentleman a weirdo even if he was supposed to be a brilliant leader. Can you imagine Obama standing a chance if he were to dress like a regular teenaged afro-american? Why is it antisemitic to understand that chassidic clothing looks strange and weird to outsiders?

3) I have absolutely no problem with a chassidish dressed mayor personally but I am realistic enough to appreciate that his chances are considerably lower (if at all) of being elected if he so dressed. All Porush’s recent attempts to call to the chiloni voters by asking them not to be afraid of him has boommerangged badly. If you ask people enough times not to be scared of you, they begin to get scared… and run to vote for Barkat!

4) Concerning the agreement… Firstly, who do you think you are to question Gedolim on their “honesty”? How can you turn around with such chutzpa and say “why should I ever accept a godol’s word if he…..”? Perhaps try to understand instead of attacking and looking for excuses to disregard Rabbonim and to follow the dictates of your evil heart. Now you have a valid reason to do what you want because the Rabbis are ….. The reasoning is simple to someone who is open to try. Is there any point in following an agreement blindly to cause loss for BOTH parties? If you and I would have signed an agreement with each other last year to jointly invest in Lehmann Bros for a year, and if we would have known in time that things were turning sour, should we have continued blindly and lost our money because of the agreement or should we have pulled out? In the same way, the whole point of the agreement in Yerushalayim was to ensure a chareidi mayor for the foreseeable future. Is there any point to continue with Porush just to lose to Barkat? What does Porush stand to gain by losing? Believe me, if Aguda would have chosen a popular candidate in a similar way to Lupoliansky who would have stood a reasonable chance of winning then everyone would have continued the agreement without a fuss (See Bnei Brak, after Rabbi Karelitz successfully completed his term, he stood down for the Aguda candidate who now is standing down for the Degel candidate etc.). According to all the polls (and I agree that they are not totally reliable but have you got a better method of checking??) Barkat will win against Porush whilst Lupoliansky will beat Barkat so why follow an agreement to everyones detriment just to satisfy Porush’s need for attention? If you can honestly say that you think you would prefer to lose money in a failing deal together with your partner with all sides losing just to keep an agreement (with noone gaining) then I suggest you see a psychiatrist.

Finally, what does “pro-Rav Eliashiv faction” mean if not following the instructions of Rav Eliashiv and obeying his rulings? By calling on this faction as anti-Porush/pro Rav Eliashiv is equivalent of saying anti-Obama/pro McCain i.e. equating them as two equal candidates. Were you to have said anti Porush/pro Deri I can understand but Rav Eliashiv, please!!! But your continuation proves your attitude as I explained earlier…

Have a good Yomtov.

PS Concerning a meshulach’s cut, in this case we are talking way above the 49% maximum allowed in Halocho!!!

“CitizenofBerlin”, I await your answer.