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July 30, 2018 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #15671191Participant
In most Flatbush shuls, the rov leaves either for a camp or a luxury hotel vacation. It’s not enough that fellow neighbors have the pressure of getting a bungalow just to fit In, their rav abandons the shul.
July 30, 2018 7:48 pm at 7:48 pm #1567194JosephParticipantThis is a boldfaced lie. The vast majority of the rabbonim are home during the summer.
July 30, 2018 10:16 pm at 10:16 pm #1567233☕️coffee addictParticipantYour title is
POOR PEOPLE DON’T GET TO HAVE A RAV IN THE SUMMER
and then you talk about Brooklyn
Wow, you’re closed minded! My Rav is that n shul in the summer (save for a few days in eretz yisrael) and I live in an out of Brooklyn, New York area
July 30, 2018 10:16 pm at 10:16 pm #1567224NOYBParticipantI don’t know what Flatbush rabbanim do, but even if they do all go to the country:
1. How poor are these poor people that they can’t even afford a phone?
2. Why should a rov not be allowed to take a vacation? They have very stressful jobs, and a time when 75% of the shul is gone is a great time to take a much-needed break.July 30, 2018 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm #1567243MDGParticipantRabbis deserve vacation too.
July 31, 2018 12:22 am at 12:22 am #1567270yehudayonaParticipantI don’t live in Brooklyn, but most of the rabbis in my community (including all the rabbis at the shuls at which I regularly daven) are working at camps in the summer. Perhaps this relates to that other topic about rebbes getting full-time salaries, since all these rabbis are part-timers whose primary job is in chinuch. During the week it’s not a problem since they can be reached by phone. It becomes something of a problem if you have a shailah on Shabbos.
July 31, 2018 12:22 am at 12:22 am #1567265skripkaParticipantMy Rov is in the country for the summer. So we have a bigger Kiddush
July 31, 2018 1:22 am at 1:22 am #15672971ParticipantMDG does it have to be 8 weeks?
July 31, 2018 3:47 am at 3:47 am #1567317reb mutcheParticipantWhat about all the people up in the mountains, as well as children in all the summer camps, don’t they deserve to have a Rav on hand?
July 31, 2018 7:37 am at 7:37 am #1567228Neville ChaimBerlinParticipantIt’s true in all of NYC. Nobody warned me; it’s actually kind of frightening to think of what we would have to do if we had a halachic emergency.
For anyone planning to move to NYC, be warned… Don’t listen to Joseph. What the OP is saying is 100% true.
July 31, 2018 7:38 am at 7:38 am #1567331☕️coffee addictParticipantReb mutche,
That’s a good point!
Maybe each shul should have an assistant rav so when the rav is away he can fill that void
July 31, 2018 9:11 am at 9:11 am #1567362GadolhadorahParticipantThere are many virtual rabbonim available ‘on-line” and will be glad to answer any questions regarding halacha for a modest charge (payable by credit card). And if it is really something important, I’m sure you can call or text your regular rav in Switzerland or Monticello and he will answer you from his vacation villa or bungalow.
July 31, 2018 10:59 am at 10:59 am #1567399☕️coffee addictParticipantNeville
You lived in all of NYC (Bronx, queens, Staten Island, Brooklyn and Manhattan) in each of those different communities?
All of is a very strong generalization
July 31, 2018 11:00 am at 11:00 am #1567410apushatayidParticipantThere are MANY Rabbonim in Brooklyn during the summer. MANY also go away, either to the mountains, E’Y or to a camp where either they, or the Rebbetzin may have a job. To say that there is noone around in Brooklyn in case of “halachic emergency” is ridiculous.
July 31, 2018 11:00 am at 11:00 am #1567417apushatayidParticipantFor what its worth, my shul has a “summer Rav”. someone handpicked by the Rav to “cover” for him while he is away.
July 31, 2018 11:00 am at 11:00 am #15674201ParticipantReb mutche I don’t think you understand what the job of a rav of a shul entails. It’s one thing if you’re a Rosh yeshiva and your yeshiva goes up. There are poor talmidei chachomim who can’t afford to go up.
July 31, 2018 11:30 am at 11:30 am #1567442kollelmanParticipantWhile I understand the sentiment of OP, it is focused only on the side of the people staying home. If many or most of the members of the community are in another location for the summer, the Rov may actually be with them.
July 31, 2018 11:31 am at 11:31 am #1567440iacisrmmaParticipanti know that many Rabbanim from Flatbush do take vacations during the summer yet in almost every case there is a sign up with the Rav’s vacation location and/or summer phone number or a listing of Rabbanim who can be called if there are shailos. There are also many Rabbanim who are home who are available to answer shailos.
The Rav of my shul does not take a “vacation” but does go away for a shabbos or 2 to visit his children. Many years ago I had a shailoh during the nine days, called my Rav and on his answering machine were the names and telephone numbers of 4 poskim to cal if there was an urgent need for a psak.
I have heard that R’ Asher Zimmerman TZATZAL, did not go away for the summer so he can be home to answer shailos.
July 31, 2018 2:01 pm at 2:01 pm #1567494ToiParticipantGam Rabbanim ktzat zkukim lichofesh na’im, im hasandalim.
If anyone knows where this is from, I request they get in touch with me asap. We have much to discuss.
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