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  • #590386
    Cest la vie
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    I have a situation I’m hoping you can help me with.

    I have been married for several years, and I’m very happy with all the blessings in my life. My issue is that my mother constantly makes comments that I don’t spend enough money on myself. She gets upset that I don’t buy the designer clothes, shoes, and bags that she wants me to get. She asks me if we don’t have money. Sometimes I wonder if she thinks we’re poor. She’s very generous with us, and buys us gifts all the time. My problem is that I want her to know that I am happy and I don’t feel that I’m lacking in anything. I don’t want her to spend money on me, and I don’t want her to think that I’m deprived either. She just doesn’t understand that we need to pay the bills somehow.

    I’m not complaining about her, and I’m not looking for comments about how parents shouldn’t get involved in their married childrens’ lives. I just need advice on how to respond to these comments without upsetting her, and hopefully make her understand.

    Thanks

    #659013
    NY Mom
    Member

    Have you tried speaking to her in a direct, but respectful way when she brings it up? I think that being direct is always more preferable than hinting at something. Or sometimes women say something in a way that they might think is “obvious”, but they don’t actually say it outright. It is not always obvious to the person listening, so speaking directly, but in a pleasant tone is always best.

    Also, you might want to say it directly, but in a light/joking way so your mother doesn’t take offense.

    For ex: Mother- Why don’t you buy yourself something nice for Yom Tov? Isn’t your husband taking care of you properly?

    You – Oh, Mommy! You don’t have to worry. You married me off very well! I have the best husband in the world! I’ve been planning to get myself something when I can find the time. Anyway, I think my blue outfit still looks pretty good on me! No?

    Hope that helps.

    #659014

    Cest la vie-

    Hello.

    I have relatives who had the almost same issue.

    The husband told her that gift-giving was something that made them happy, and the gifts should be graciously accepted.

    (As others are surely thinking, this should be your worst problem.)

    #659015
    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    we welcome a brand new member- CEST LA VIE 🙂

    #659016
    jphone
    Member

    It really sounds like you want to live a different lifestyle than your parents. You are happy with a nice outfit for yom tov, while your mother seems to believe it doesnt pas to greet each of the ushpizin in the same outfit.

    My advise, continue living the lifestyle you and your husband are comfortable living and let your mother know, graciously.

    #659017
    squeak
    Participant

    First off, I want to say that IMHO your screen name says it all – this is the life! I admire your way of living.

    Putting a sigh in the phrase, <sigh> this is the life. Mothers are mothers. Bills are bills. Priorities are priorities. The best advice I can give you is that you should tell you mother in a very respectful way that while you will graciously allow her to spoil you, at your stage in life spoiling yourself is a low priority. While of course everyone family is different, most couples who are married for a few years simply do not have the disposable income to live like that. So it’s a trade-off between responsibility and gratification. She will admire you for choosing responsibility if you let her know that it makes you happy. Reinforce your happiness over time to her.

    Tout le meilleur!

    #659018
    Pashuteh Yid
    Member

    Can I apply for some of these funds and gifts? I will post my address.

    #659019
    NY Mom
    Member

    I also agree with ICOT about accepting gifts graciously.

    I remember early in my marriage, my in-laws wanted to buy us our first washer/dryer, and I considered that to be too expensive a gift and not their responsibility to buy for us. I really did not want to accept it and even told them thank you, but that it was not necessary for them to buy this for us.

    My husband asked our Rav if we should accept this gift. The Rav said essentially what ICOT wrote above: that giving gifts is a parent’s pleasure and we should accept it and just say “Thank you” to them for their generous gift.

    #659020
    Cest la vie
    Member

    Thank you all for your replies. All great posts!

    I guess I never did explain to her directly that I don’t need those luxuries to be happy. I just figured it’s obvious that I’m happy without them. I feel better about this now. You’ve helped me see that she’s just being concerned about me. I had always felt that it was my inability to impress her, but now I realize that isn’t it at all. She just wants to see me have the nice things I grew up with because she loves me.

    Thank you again for wonderful advice!

    #659021
    NY Mom
    Member

    Cest la vie – Glad to be of help! Hatzlochoh with your talk to your Mother and in the zchus of doing the mitzva of kibbud aym, may you and your family be written down for a shana tova.

    #659022
    Cest la vie
    Member

    NY Mom, wow, amen and thank you! May you and your family have a shana tova too!

    #659023
    NY Mom
    Member

    Amein, kein yehi ratzon. I’ll take all the brachos I can get!

    #659024
    mazca
    Member

    it is nice to hear each other helping, well i guess as a mother and mother in law i really have a hard time, must of the times i have to keep my mouth shut, wether i like it or not, it is very hard for a mother to see her children laking something, and having to keep quiet about it. but i guess anything a mother or a mother in law says is never too welcome… c’est la vie

    #659025
    Cest la vie
    Member

    mazca, a mother doesn’t want to see her children lacking anything, but sometimes the children don’t realize or feel like they’re lacking something until their mother makes a comment about it.

    It also makes the child feel inferior, as if the child has failed to live up to the parent’s expectations.

    #659026
    cherrybim
    Participant

    Cest la vie: What is so terrible about wearing designer cloths when you see your mother, if that is what’s going to make her happy? It’s not about you.

    Kibud Av V’eim is one of the most important and difficult mitzvos to attain. Be thrilled that you are able to be m’kayem it in a relatively simple way.

    Take advantage while you can and make your mother happy.

    #659027
    Cest la vie
    Member

    cherrybim, I see my mother almost every day (baruch Hashem). I try my best to dress in a way that will make her happy, but it never seems to be enough. I would love to shop the way she wants me to, I’d love to wear a different designer label every single day, but I simply can’t afford it.

    The day that I started this thread I had been out shopping with my mother. I was showing her different bags, asking her opinion on them (she likes when I do that, although we have different tastes). She didn’t like any of them, and asked why I don’t buy a normal bag already. We left without me buying one. Out of kibud av veim I didn’t make a big deal out of it at all. I accepted her opinion and did as she wanted me to. The next day she bought me a Prada. Of course I’m thrilled with the gift, and I have tremendous gratitude, but it makes me feel bad to take my parents’ money. And really, my point is, I don’t want her to think that I need these things to be happy.

    #659028
    cherrybim
    Participant

    Sorry, I got the wrong impression about the money aspect from your post.

    You are a wonderful daughter but if you haven’t been able to change your mother’s mind set by now, you probably never will.

    So play the game and make the best of it; and continue to make her happy.

    #659029
    Cest la vie
    Member

    Thank you cherrybim.

    #659030
    artchill
    Participant

    Cest la vie:

    If your concern is truly about chaval al hakessef, may I suggest a beautiful idea for you. If you frequent Boro Park, why don’t you ask your mother to go with you to a fine eatery called Masbia. They feed a hot meal to ANY Jewish person in need, in an upscale feel enabling them to not feel ashamed. There she will see how many people she can feed and make so incredibly happy for a quarter the price of a Prada. This realization will certainly cause a lightbulb to go off in your mother’s head.

    #659031
    Cest la vie
    Member

    Thank you artchill. That is a beautiful idea. I know that my parents support Masbia, but I don’t think they’ve ever been there. I’ve wanted to go there myself. That would be a good way to help her see my point.

    But I can’t say my concern is only about the money. I want my mother to be happy, and to be happy for me.

    #659032
    mazca
    Member

    c’est la vie, if a daughter doesnt feel she is lacking anything, its fine with me believe me, i see my daughters could use this or that but i dont get involve, why point it out to them. so they could have shalom bayis problems….no i am not that mother or mother in law, and guess what??? they think a tell them too much…. i really dont ,,,they should just know what i think sometimes, they would faint.

    #659033
    mazca
    Member

    and trying to make ur mother happy is fine, but are u truthful with yourself…maybe you just want to make yourself happy and use your mother as a pretext. first make your family and husband happy ..i think so dont you?

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