Ponevezh Bans Technology 🚫📱🚫🖥️🚫🥔

That is the real issue when you “Ban Technology” . Where do you draw the line. The Chofetz Chaim would learn by Candlight , even when electricity was an option. He also refused to let himself be taken a picture of (As did many gedolim of that era)

Do you ban Autos after all, they have computers in them. How about ATM Machines?

Does a potato peeler count as “technology” (even not in this specific context)?

Next year there will be a fast train between Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. it will make the trip in I think 30 mins. Should we ban people from riding that train?

Right now people in Brooklyn can take the Subway to Manhattan, Lots of Prizus there.

Also there are alot of strange people on the Subway between people dressed Prizusly to Subway Preachers. Should we ban riding the Subway?

zdad:
The Chofetz Chaim would learn by Candlight , even when electricity was an option.

I never heard that before. Where’d you hear/see that?

R’ Moshe held that a potato peeler is a fancy knife. Do you consider forks, spoons, and knives as technology?00

Every society and religious group has their own “Luddites” who have spiritual and moral concerns with innovations and new technology. While many of us disagree with the decision of the Rosh Yeshiva, I doubt this policy will result in empty seats in the beis medrash since there are more bochurim seeking admission than can possibly be accommodated. Putting aside the obvious issue that those coming out of this yeshiva will lack basic skills for a parnassah,, many of the most exciting and original thoughts in the world of torah learning are only available on the internet so they are denying their students access to daas torah from the next generation of more computer friendly talmedei chachamim.

…and WI-Fi

Putting aside the obvious issue that those coming out of this yeshiva will lack basic skills for a parnassah

It’s pretty far-fetched to think that talmidim of Ponovezh will be seriously impaired in their ability to earn parnassah because computers aren’t allowed in the beis medrash.

many of the most exciting and original thoughts in the world of torah learning are only available on the internet

As someone who spends time both in the beis medrash and online, I can assure you that someone’s growth in learning is much better served by spending time on the classic seforim than online.

Apushatyaid: “Why this was reported as “news” is beyond me. The over reaction by some while not surprising, is also beyond me. Do you learn in ponovezh? Why do you care?

Thank you YWN for facilitating the badmouthing of a Yeshiva and it’s roshei Yeshiva. (perhaps this is why the Yeshiva is banning the “technology” all it does is facilitate leitsanus and the bad mouthing of others).”

Maskim. The spreading of motzi shem ra about Am Yisrael by websites that label themselves as Frum is probably the biggest problem with internet today. It also may well be one of the biggest problems facing Am Yisrael today. The Rabbanim whom I’ve spoken to so far about this issue are very upset about it.

That is why I (in conjunction with Gedolei Yisrael) am trying to do whatever we can to stop it.

Shavua Tov LU 🙂 🙂 🙂

Question please: I love how you add Hebrish into your posts! So I’ve wondered this before and realized that maybe I can ask you… Why do you write “maskim” instead of “maskimah”? I wondered if maybe to be gender anonymous or neutral maybe. Or maybe this is what people say in a frum context when agreeing with each other? Wondering if it is your thing, or a common thing that I didn’t realize that women say too.

Thank you <3

There is a movement among some to “out frum” someone else.

While this will only apply to Ponevech, someone else will likely think “Hey this is a great idea” and it will spread and Ponevech will just be the first for a technology ban, but it wont be the last.

While some might fantasize about the days of Horse and Buggy and propane lights and fridges, It isnt going to happen

Computers are everywhere and cannot be avoided no matter how much you try to legislate it. By banning it, all you are doing is creating more sinners and causing people to get the stuff clandestinly, which is worse than what you are trying to solve

That is why I (in conjunction with Gedolei Yisrael) am trying to do whatever we can to stop it.

And yet, here you are supporting them with every click and post.

The Wolf

Who said wifi is Internet?

I have been asked about computers without Wifi from people in Lakewood or they wanted the Wifi card removed

They didnt seem to understand wifi without internet is meaningless

Right. Nobody thinks wifi is synonymous with internet.

Forks, spoons and knives are less advanced machines, but they are still technology.

Friends, the issue is not internet nor technology. It having computers in a beis medrash. Rav Gershon Edelstein feels that computers do not belong in a beis medrash. That’s all there is to it. (Yes, you can have one at home)

How do you learn without a potato peeler?

The GRA used to learn with a candle – even during the day – with the windows closed. That way he always has the same learning environment, which helps in reducing distractions.

As they said before, R chaim kanievsky was able to pull it off even without the internet. Can u imagine?? smh