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What’s the halacha of a half brother? Are you allowed to touch? sing? be untznius? how untznius? pajamas?
absolutely NOT!!!! although I wonder if you could halachicly marry him…
How about a non-local OR? 🙂
There are lots of halacha phonelines, where you can call and ask anonymously.
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No, you cannot halachicly marry him. The torah says ?? ???? ?? ?? ???
You may act as if he is your full brother.
You may act as if he is your full brother.
Source?
You may act as if he is your full brother.
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The Halacha technically is that you can’t touch even a full sibling at all. For a few reasons discussed, most (maybe not most, but many) are Noheg that it’s okay. There is no reason for a half-sibling to any different than a real sibling in both regards.
Popa, you already gave the source. A half sibling is halachically the same as a full sibling- assur to marry, allowed to touch allowed to be in yichud. Now a STEP sibling is a different story.
My opinion is correct on a common sense level and requires no source.
As has been mentioned, there is no logic in distinguishing between full and half siblings. The poskim discuss how to behave with step-siblings who are not biologically related. The tendency is to treat them as if they were biological siblings in regards to yichud and normal family life . Hence it is obvious that half and full siblings can be misyached etc…
Certainly, though, biologically related siblings are arayos and may not have relations or ever marry.
For a full treatment of the issue, see Tzitz Eliezer Chelek 6, Siman 40, perek 20 and 21. A very comprehensive and lengthy source. Read it, please.
In summary, behave with your half sibling as you would with your full sibling.
Old man: Nice one.
You make up a halacha (which I happen to agree, is probably correct), then when asked for a source, instead of providing one, you say it is obvious and that I should read two huge pieces in the tzitz eliezer (how you picked that, I have no idea). But since you seem to pretend you’ve read it, why don’t you tell us which page? (you can specify an edition if you wish)
Popa: though I can’t provide a source, I do know it’s 100% correct. A half sibling has same halachos as full sibling.
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There is no shortage of credible ask the rabbi programs on line. The CR is the wrong place for this.
Please call a reputable rav with this type of a shayla – you don’t have to identify yourself and you will get a real psak – this is totally the wrong place for a psak din. If you don’t know who to call, i can ask the mods to give you some numbers.
If you have lived together for years and feel like brother and sister then it is a pure halachic issue. If you were raised in differnt homes and are not used to each other, it would seem appropriate to be tznius in front of him anyway.
rikki2
Not if you are only looking for a heter.
It will depend on if you grew up with him. It’s a case by case situation, there is no single rule.
QTpie – Perhaps you are confusing the terms “half-brother” and “step-brother”.
A half brother is a brother with who you share one parent. According to the Torah a real brother for almost every halacha.
A step-brother is someone with whom you share no parents and merely live together because one of your parents married one of his parents. This is not considered a brother and yes, they may get married.
And in response to all the Coffee Roomaratzim, the fact that she is an ervah does not allow yichud.
For example, an eishes ish is also an ervah, and there is an issur yichud. And even if you mean ervah of shear basar, bas achoso is an ervah of shear basar and there is an issur yichud.
I have no idea what the halacha here is, but neither do you.
cant.deal.with.self-proclaimed-ignorant-megaleh-ponim-poskim.
Step-sibling does not = half-sibling. A Step-sibling is NO blood relation to you whatsoever. It might be that your parent (widowed or divorced)married someone who came to the new marriage with a child from a previous marriage. That child is not assur to marry, and I know frum people who have in fact married their step-siblings.
If however, your parent marries again and sires/bears a child with the new spouse, THAT child though a half-sibling, is certainly considered your full sibling in regards to erva, and would therefore be assur to marry. Some people might have a special sensitivity in the case where the step-siblings have been raised as siblings from a very young age, so that they are emotionally connected as brother/sister, even if they are not biologically related to each other. That is another issue, but still not technically assur should they want to marry.
“Coffee Roomaratzim”
Love it!!!
popa, that’s me, Coffee Roomaratz. Anyways what’s this about “bas achoso is an ervah of shear basar”? Could you elaborate for us uneducated masses?
midwesterner: thanks!
zeeskite: The forbidden relationships are sometimes divided into the ones that are because of familial relationship and the ones which aren’t. That is called shear basar. ??? ???.
The only time I have seen its relevance, is in the shittah of Rabbi Akiva who held that chayvei lavin were ?? ????? ??????.
That is, that some women who are assur to you, if you do kiddushin to them, the kiddushin does not work at all, but some, the kiddushin works and you are just still assur to them. There is a machlokes which issurim this applies to. We pasken that it applies to most chayvei krisus. (so like not nidda).
But, Rabbi Akiva held it applies even to chayvei lavin. There is a machlokes in the gemara exactly what Rabbi Akiva’s opinion was, and according to one opinion, it only applied to chayvei lavin d’shear. So not almana l’kohen gadol, but yes anusas aviv, if I recall correctly.
In any event, I have no reason to think it has any application to this halacha here, and I was just negating a possible silliness.
Rebbe Popa: So you’re saying (implying) that a bas achoso is called ??? ??? and is not permitted to marry? (Could it maybe actually be a mitzvah? ?????? ?? ?? ?????… ???? ????? ???? ?? ???? ??’ ???? ???? ????? ????)
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I Just want to thank everyone who posted in this thread i found it very interesting and somewhat informative we should have more threads like this.
Rebbe Popa: So you’re saying (implying) that a bas achoso is called ??? ??? and is not permitted to marry? (Could it maybe actually be a mitzvah? ?????? ?? ?? ?????… ???? ????? ???? ?? ???? ??’ ???? ???? ????? ????)
Thank you zeeskite. As you point out, I was making a mistake. bas achoso is not an ervah at all. Let’s switch to a different example, say bas ishto.
oldman: Thank you. And since you did post it, I will actually go read it.
Hi mishchiefmaker.
You really do have to ask your LOR. This is probably cut and dry once they know your ages and living arrangements. Or call this Bais Horaah: 908-670-1596. They are also well staffed and answer promptly, in my experience.
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