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areivim, exactly uch I really didn’t know people do that! Maybe it’s just boys that don’t drive so they wana be cheap on the car service
i was just by 13th ave. recently, it’s crazy there.$
dunno: ha that’s nuts you thought that!!!
starbucks,Terrace on the hudson, bowling
I have a serious question-why on earth do boys take girls to hotels on the first date it is so uncomfortable.
There is just something with after a long day of work and the lights are really low that makes me kind of sleepy.If someone MUUSSTT go to a hotel lounge and meet the world there at least take a walk or play a board game.To me Hotel dates are when things are getting serious and its DMC time.
Ames: DMC- deep meaningful conversation
Ames-syriansephardi is correct- dmc’s are very serious and intense conversations.
By the way i read somewhere that chazal say that eating brings closeness between peole so maybe thats why people go out to eat on dates.That is also why we have yayin nesech-we don’t want to get to close to the goyim…
yayin nesech? you sure about that?
what’s the difference between sitting with a goy and drinking regular wine and wine that’s mevushal?
and never mind that yayin nesech applies to wine even (or should i say especially?) when it’s out of your sight. with means you’re not sitting with the goy.
By2: yup and also that’s why bishul goyim…
Moish: she is right. And I forgot the reason
i thought it had to do with the “nesech” for a “korban” for avoda zara.
can we get another guy on here?
ok, i know 72 left but it just came to me.
yayin nesech is what i said about avoda zara – and it’s assur.
stam yayin is wine that’s not mevushal and is touched or owned by a goy – and it’s also assur. and i think boiled wine is not a problem because it can’t be used for nesech.
basyisroel – you’re right about the drinking together thing – because it leads to intermarriage. i just don’t remember why yayin mevushal would solve that problem… there’s a gemara that discusses this… it’s killing me
ha the place i took my date last night, wasn’t even mentioned in this thread!!!!!! i’m deciding, if i should mention the place not!!!
niitallmr: i think the bracha that you gave me, is starting to work!!!! thank you so much pal!!!
basyisroel2, definately NO starbucks!! Did that once and it was horrible!!
moish01,
I think the “cooking” process affects the taste of the wine. That’s one reason kosher wine often isn’t considered as high-quality as non-kosher, and isn’t generally mentioned in wine columns (one notable exception: every year, the Wall Street Journal devotes one of its weekly wine columns to kosher wines for the seder).
Ames: to tell u the truth I’m all confused now lol but I remember the rabbi said the goy can’t cook ur food even if ur there…….that’s bishul goyim no? Maybe I meant to say we can have pat goyim as long as the jew turns on the fire?!
bishul yisroel is when a jew turns on the fire.
i think bishul yisroel sfardi is that a jew has to take part in the cooking process. like stirring or something.
that was a wild guess
anon, you can’t “bond” with a goy over boiled wine? true, the taste is different, but wine is wine.
which one?
you wish i’m looking it up. no patience.
did evrybody miss asdfg’s post above?
he said he went on a date… and the brocha is working…. hmmm
LET US KNOW WHEN THERE’S SOME GOOD NEWS!
asdf, 16 yrs old and dating already?
😉
Moish, do you know a goy that would drink Cream Malaga? LOL.
To be honest, if you want to bond with a non Jew, you will find ways.
Ames, like I said I’m totally confused!!!!!!!! But yeah u do say bishul yisrael to a resteraunt…..
Moish: I don’t think they have to stir or anything, just turn on the fire
Ok guys now I got it:
Bishul goyim- assur
Bishul yisrael- ashkenaz-jew has to turn on the fire, sephardic-jew has turn on fire AND do something with the cooking(u were right moish)
sjs – takka. then why the geder altogether?
Most winerys (?wineries) actually do give tours…
Just make sure you or your date don’t get drunk. Or better yet, that would be good cuz you’ll get to see the real person!
there are breweries you can tour. that might be a good place to date.
I would love to go to batting cages on a date!!!! (Not a first one of course!!)
asdfghjkl: why wouldn’t you wanna mention it??$
Aren’t these wineries treif? How can you drink there?
Joseph: ames said- unfortunatley I COULDN’T partake…..that means she DIDN’T drink it because its not kosher!
moish01,
I think the mevushal process may be relatively new.
Never done a winery tour, but have toured a brewery (Anheuser Busch), though not on a date. It was OK but you don’t get to see much of the factory. You do have to be 21 to drink the beer sample; there’s soft drinks for everyone else.
areivimzehlazeh: thanx for being the only one to notice it there, with all the heated yayim stuff going on!!! i’ll keep ya posted!!!
curious: i’m not 16-that’s moish who’s 16!!!
qwertyuiop: cause it was such a nice quiet place, i don’t want it to be the next hot spot like the marriott!!!
That’s what happens when you skim 🙂
I had visited the wineries in Napa Valley about 3 years ago; now those are wineries.
asdfghjkl: who cares, next time you’ll find a new place.$
nope! 🙂
in fact if you’re ever in the San Francisco area for some reason, check out Napa Valley if you really want to know what a real winery is like.
Does Kedem give a guided tour? I think the Yekev is about two hours North of the City. That would be a fun and enjoyable date, only if you are allowed to sample and taste the Wines at the end of the Tour.
Napa Valley is Wine Country.
Ames: yesterday we had halacha with the rabbi of the community I live in (u no which one) and he showed us the video of the bugs in strawberrys then we were talkin bout all grapes n stuff n he never said anything about that….
ames: i can’t wait till i see you farmer ames.$
qwertyuiop: you really wanna know where i went??? like you might wanna go there too once???
i’m not a wine-guy, i’m a scotch-men!!!!!!!!!
I’ve been to quite a few brewery tours and I loved them! I went both pre and post legal age. My favorite was Coors in Golden Colorado.
I also “toured” the coke place in Atlanta (they dont show you much).
Factory tours are generally pretty cool. I went to Stoneyfield Farms in VT, John Deere Factory in Iowa, Harley Davidson in Madison WI…I’m sure there are a bunch around here. There are so many cool things to see!
Ames: I know we weren’t only talking about bugs…
Asdf- Hatzlacha and may we all hear good news from you Bekarov!
myshadow- why do you not like starbucks? I think it’s great-You can have a small black coffee/ice coffe there with soy milk(check the hechser at each starbucks) which is $2.something which is cheaper that a $6.00 flat soda at a boring Hotel!
BasYisroel2: thank you so much!!! hatzlacha to you 2!!!
BasYisroel2- The problem I have with Starbucks is that I don’t like coffee (mods, don’t throw me out of here please) and I end up ordering water which costs more than coffee. Go figure that one out.
You’re treading on thin ice AL2. YW Moderator-72 :o) thanks coke not pepsi
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