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Sam2, the issue here is of people who don’t intend to ogle but may forget not to.
MODS – is there a reason my first post wasn’t posted?
It was.
Wolf, there’s another side as well, namely, that the chosson and kallah get there own web page with their picture and names and location. For someone who is sensitive to modesty, this is far worse than being in the background of a picture, or even the subject of one of your carnival shots (especially since there are people who enjoy looking up the latest simchas).
I think you are you’re sensitive to your subjects, and I don’t think either of the types of shots you take are what generally makes people such as the OP irate.
ZD, I have issues with how you view certain groups, not with how you treat individuals.
Sam, see my parenthetical point above to Wolf. Although the intent is surely more innocent, do you really doubt that there’s something often mixed in which doesn’t come from a good place?
MODS – For some reason, it does not show up on my screen, which is why I asked.
apushatayid – It’s not that one does not care if the pictures are posted. It’s that the fact that they were later posted did not prevent him from acting a certain way AT THE TIME. This concept is from the two approaches to Hezek Re’iyah in the first 4 Dafim or so of Bava Basra. One is that it is Ayin Hara – it directly causes damage. The other is that it prevents me from acting normally since I am being watched (See B.B. 2b Tos. DH Nafal, and Shulchan Aruch C.M. 378:5 with the SM”A there).
Sam2 – don’t be so sure. Some would ogle the Simcha pictures. Think of it as a more subtle Yetzer Hara.
DY: I think that when people put these pictures up, it’s just to share the Simcha. I don’t think there’s anything nefarious going on.
Sam: there are different levels of ogling. Some people can have filtered Internet and not be enslaved to smut, yet still not be perfect in guarding their eyes and minds. It’s not necessarily a black and white issue.
And once it’s on the web the subject definitely loses control over the image. Nothing nefarious will likely happen but there are no guarantees either.
Sam, you don’t think it’s wrong to post pictures against the will of the ba’alei simchah?
What I was referring to above is the likelihood that some people will view the pictures in a less than 100% innocent way, and the ba’alei simchah have every right to be sensitive about this, and it is therefore wrong to post pictures against their will.
If the baalei simcha specifically ask not to “share” their simcha with cyberspace, why does a guest feel it is appropriate to do so?
One more thing: if museums can request a no photograph rule (sometimes with the excuse that a camera flash can damage their precious objects?) a Yiddishe simcha and couple surely have more “value” and can take “security precautions” necessary by requesting and hopefully enforcing a “no publishing rule”.
Within the past few days i overheard a guy say “did you see plonis on that website”? Ya people oggle
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