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July 31, 2013 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #610220WIYMember
Was the Micha from Pesel Micha the Micha that Moshe Rabbeinu took out of the wall in Mitzrayim?
If yes how can it be if the Torah says that nobody from that generation survived save for Yehoshua and Kaleiv and Pinchas?
July 31, 2013 7:48 pm at 7:48 pm #968993Oh Shreck!ParticipantEither older than 60, younger than 20.
July 31, 2013 7:59 pm at 7:59 pm #968994🐵 ⌨ GamanitParticipantOh Shreck!- probably younger than 20, if he lived to that late.
July 31, 2013 8:00 pm at 8:00 pm #968995WIYMemberOh Shreck!
And it would seem he had big arichas yamim. So its the same guy?
July 31, 2013 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #968996Rav TuvParticipantI’m pretty sure if he was in Mitzrayim…he was older than 20 after 40 yrs in midbar.
That said, IIRC the Leviiyim did not die in the midbar and went into eretz yisroel. Is it maybe a gemara in bava basra?
Also i remember taht pesel micha was at kriyas hayam.
July 31, 2013 9:52 pm at 9:52 pm #968997benignumanParticipantWIY not such arichas yamim. He was taken out of the wall as a baby. Bnei Yisroel went into Israel 40 years later. According to some the story of Pesel Micha took place at the beginning of Shoftim, not at the end.
July 31, 2013 10:59 pm at 10:59 pm #968998pixelateMemberWhere is the story of pesel micha? (excuse my ignorance)
July 31, 2013 11:03 pm at 11:03 pm #968999benignumanParticipantMusser Zoger,
Anyone who was under 20 at the time of the Chet HaMiraglim lived and went into Eretz Yisroel.
July 31, 2013 11:50 pm at 11:50 pm #969000☕️coffee addictParticipantI love these (Torah) questions (hence I’m coming out of hiding for this one)
Moshe took Micha out either right at yetzias mitzrayim (up to a year before) or before he went to midyan (he was in midyan for 40 years I think, not withstanding the midrash) so either he was 40 or 1 by parshas shlach (it makes more sense after he came back because that was when the babies were stuffed in the wall) so micha was 1 when they left mitzrayim and not between 20 and 60, those that would die in the midbar
August 1, 2013 12:24 am at 12:24 am #969001Sam2ParticipantThere is a Midrash that says it was him. I don’t know if that’s Muskam for all the Midrashim though. In fact, I think this Midrash (that it was the same person) is quoted in the Little Midrash Says on Shoftim.
August 1, 2013 12:39 am at 12:39 am #969002Oh Shreck!ParticipantWIY
Yes, it’s the same one. Medrash (where?), I think, says HaShem told Moshe in other words, “I know pretty well what I’m doing, if you want, you may take one out”. He took one out and that was the ??? ??? ???.
August 1, 2013 6:41 pm at 6:41 pm #969003WIYMemberOh Shreck!
What was the “??? ??? ???” pessel micha didnt happen until they were in EY?
August 1, 2013 8:06 pm at 8:06 pm #969004yeshivaguy45ParticipantIt’s Tn the Medrash Says in Parshas Shemos page 51. He brings it from a Rashi in Sanhedrin kuf aleph amud beis.
August 1, 2013 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm #969005Rav TuvParticipantPix- pesel micha is in sefer shoftim…near the end.
August 2, 2013 1:17 am at 1:17 am #969006🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantfor those who know (Ta)nach
I assumed only women would be here! I am duly impressed (and stand corrected). My faith in mankind has been restored.
August 2, 2013 1:32 am at 1:32 am #969007benignumanParticipantmusser zoger,
It is written at the end but according some, at least, it took place at the beggining of that period.
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