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so right:
Well, I hope you can also recognize the opinion of the majority of American litvish gedolim that it is proper to open the door for your date.
You should certainly follow your Rebbeim, but you should not criticize others for following theirs.
klach:
I don’t know how your culture gets married, but if you do a beshow, that is a breach of tznius.
If you never meet her, it is assur to marry her.
So you are wrong.
so right,
apparently you have never read the making of a gadol. the gedolim such as harav Aaron Kotler zl and harav Yaakov Kaminetzky would laugh at you for your silly argument
so right – Your post that mentions me is a perfect example of why I usually just read things I didagree wwith and don’t respond. Here, I wanted to give an opinion from a current Yeshivish girl saying there is no problem with the boy opening the car door, and you just went and twisted my words.
The boys who opened the door for me on dates were no less Yeshivish than those that didn’t, and were often more Yeshivish (my husband for instance is more yeshivish than a lot of other boys I dated and as I said – he did open the car door for me. Now he opens taxi car doors for me…)
The ones who did not open the door were not really doing it because their Rosh Yeshiva sais not to but rather because their friends told him its not the done thing. It’s a similar equation with whether girls should wear seatbelts on dates (v’hameivin yavin).
Furthermore, not only would a majority of litvish gedolim concur that it is proper to not davka open the door, I’m not sure any would disagree.
I love it when people throw around terms like “majority” and “any.” Have you spoken to a “majority of litvish gedolim?” No? Then what right have you to make a statement on their behalf? Have you personally spoken to any gedolim about this? Would you really take up the time of a gadol for something so insignificant?
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