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October 28, 2016 8:45 pm at 8:45 pm #618586tantaliMember
If you order a sefer that will arrive via the post office on shabbos (from another state originally) can you open the package on shabbos.
What are your opinions?
October 28, 2016 9:04 pm at 9:04 pm #1188451Abba_SParticipantI don’t think you can as you it’s probably Muktzah.
October 28, 2016 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm #1188452Mashiach AgentMemberMany melachos performed. Do your research and see how many if the 39 are broken if you do this.
Have a wonderful Shabbos
He wants to look it up but he’s waiting for the Sefer
October 29, 2016 10:57 pm at 10:57 pm #1188453Neville ChaimBerlinParticipantYou really shouldn’t order something that you know will arrive on Shabbos. It’s been a while since I’ve learned about these halachos, but I think it might even be a problem if it arrives within a certain time after Shabbos. I think this is one of those “the masses are lenient and we don’t rebuke” areas.
October 30, 2016 6:46 am at 6:46 am #1188454WinnieThePoohParticipantNeville- unless you are doing an express next day delivery, it’s sometimes very hard to predict when something you order will arrive. if you choose the free shipping option, then you are usually given a range of several days for expected delivery, or you are told they will deliver by certain date. sometimes they surprise you and deliver earlier than the expected date. sometimes your order is broken up into different shipments that arrive on different days. the delivery person is probably not Jewish, and you are not asking them to deliver on shabbos. Wouldn’t it be similar to hiring a goy to do some service for you (say fix your computer), as I remember the halacha, if they decided to do the work on shabbos, that is their choice, it is not a problem, as long as they could have theoretically done the work a different time. Meaning, you could not bring in your computer Fri afternoon and expect it back Sun morning, but if you brought it to the store on Wed, and they could have done it Thurs or Fri, but chose to do it on Shabbos, that is ok.
October 31, 2016 6:25 pm at 6:25 pm #1188455MenoParticipantAren’t there also issues of T’chum?
October 31, 2016 8:04 pm at 8:04 pm #1188456iacisrmmaParticipantmeno: I heard from Rabbi Perl A”H that we do not have to be concerned about the “T’chum” issue. It is a safeik that it was outside the “t’chum” before Shabbos.
November 1, 2016 12:35 am at 12:35 am #1188457tantaliMemberSeems like the answer to this is not so clear. Why would it be muktza if it’s a sefer?
November 1, 2016 12:40 am at 12:40 am #1188458tantaliMemberMashiach Agent, if you are truly as upset about the tragedies you wrote about some time ago, this pain should be so great you shouldn’t even have the koach to go online and type words!
Please do your research and do teshuva to be metaken this middah of achzarius
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