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I just saw the prize from Oorah for a pet. In the picture Rabbi D. is walking a Golden Retriever and in the prize description it says you can choose the dog.
Just wanted to get peoples feedback if they think frum people getting dogs is becoming more acceptable? What about people more identified as yeshivish, but for whatever reason want to get a dog for their children?
I had two dogs growing up, and, were it not for allergies among members of my family, we would certainly have one today.
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Animals are not prizes! Winning an animal in a raffle turns what should be a serious decision into a game.
@rebyidd23 uh… Why are raffles and auctions considered a “serious decision”?
What’s serious about an event that’s meant to be fun and entertaining?
Getting a pet is serious.
Frum people in South Africa should own dogs for security purposes.
Giving to Oorah is a serious mitzvah. Choosing which prize to put into is the game part. $250 gets you one in every box…
No, frum people still have the same attitude. That is, some have them, and some don’t. Some are vehemently against them. And some just like to argue about it.
The only new thing is that now we discuss it on message boards instead of in the mikvah…
I never encountered a dog owner in the mikvah. They don’t seem to be the weekly (forget daily) mikvah-going types.
Pets are not raffle prizes. I would hope any organization would know better.
Why aren’t pets raffle prizes?
Why aren’t pets raffle prizes?
Because having a pet is a serious responsibility to the animal. A dog needs to be trained, which takes time and effort that not everyone is willing to make. It’s an expense – there’s food, veterinarian visits and bills. It’s not like the dog gets sick and you can ignore it. One needs to plan about caring for the dog when leaving the house or going on vacation, which is not cheap. The dog needs to be walked and exercised, every day, including Shabbat and the chagim. Is someone going to leave shule on Y”K to go home and walk the dog? You can’t leave it outside 24/7. Think of it as having a permanant 5 year old in the house for 12 or 15 years.
That’s why pets are not raffle prizes.
You didn’t explain why they’re not raffle prizes.
You did make a good case for there to be a great responsibility on the winner.
So to be a dog owner one must sacrifice part of their Yom Kippur davening in shul (as well as other times of the year) to care for a dog?
You didn’t explain why they’re not raffle prizes.
Not everyone entering a raffle is responsible enough to be a pet owner. Most animal shelters and reputable breeders will interview a family to make sure they would do well by the dog before allowing them to take one. I envision this pet ending up at a shelter.
Do pet stores have such interviews?
Do pet stores have such interviews?
Their primary goal is to take a profit from your purchase of the pet.
Raffles are games.
Since when do Frum people not have dogs? Many of my friends growing up had one. For a while I had a German Shepard. I would assume that people in the New York area don’t have dogs because of living spaces are small and its hard to have a dog if you don’t have a yard outside.
Plenty of people in New York have dogs.
What do the dog owners do on Shabbos? Aren’t the dogs muktza?
They are, and there are limits to how they can be handled.
It’s the same as having a cat, shabboswise.
You don’t need to walk a cat.
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