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nightmares!!!! lol;)

always here: +1

I didnt want to comment on the whole ayc saga and havent until now. But your post could have been written word for word by me. They are my sentiments exactly. He never said not to be cautious. Quite the opposite, he advised that we should be cautious but not paranoid, which would upset the whole atmosphere here. This has now unfortunately happened. But I do think that we must trust that the mods are in a position to know best and we must leave it to them to take all necessary steps to protect this site.

smartcookie,

I understand what you’re saying that each person needs to watch themselves. However remember there are teens here! See my response to you on the same concept –>here<–

With AYC, he didn’t just say that people should be careful but not paranoid. He kept saying that its no problem if you let out bits and pieces of info about your identity and don’t worry about it. I asked him at least 3 times why he’s not concerned about people linking the bits of info to figure out who someone is and he always beat around the bush and didn’t answer that.

Definitely not, smartcookie. I am shocked he is being in the limelight of being ACCUSED of fraud. I won’t beleive it 100% but I am left with a very sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. That’s all.

MiddlePath, your post could not have been written better. I’m surprised the mods allowed it, because it’s pointing the finger at them.

Smartcookie, you make a lot of sense when you say: “Btw, I was looking through AYC’s post where he writes I’m a kletzky. Looks to me like he meant to say- I am like the Kletzkys, I also had a family tragedy this summer.”

I’m wondering if the name Kletzky is the problem? If someone claimed to belong to the Twerski family would he/she also become a stalking suspect?

Smartcookie, I also agree that mods are not above making poor judgments. I will go even further by saying that mods are not above suspicion. NOBODY should be trusted, chabdehu vechashdehu applies to mods as well.

However, I will never understand what harm was done by AYC when he/she said “I am a Kletzky”. As I said earlier, if it’s true, what harm was done? If it’s a lie, who cares?

MP, I’m with you entirely.

smartcookie, In my humblekite I would assume that this issue is NOT AT ALL BORING to the party wronged, not at all! I assume (s)he is BURNING with a mixture of bad, sad, extremely horrible feelings. Possibly suffering physically too!

For the record, I’d like to point out, at one time the administration here blocked repeatedly one fine poster on suspicion he was The Fish. Notices and emails to counter that went unanswered. It was only after the incessant ‘badgering’ of his acquaintance IRL testifying on his behalf, did they relent. So, again, Mods can be wrong. There are many. One or two don’t spoil the whole, they may give a bad taste though.

I’m just wondering, not too long ago there was one fine poster who literally spilled her life out to us here. No commotion. Then she once made a direct reference to her identity. No problem. I happened to have her email, I pointed this out, and she had it removed. So, I’m just wondering what changed. WHY SO MUCH HYPE? Careful – yes, but all this paranoia?

This AYC was attacked, in my humblekite, just for doubting Mods (and Jothar who..). Is that right? They know (s)he’s not ‘The Fish’. What’s their point. Do they REALLY think (s)he’s dangerous? Prying? Trolling? Does the phrase “it’s a known tactic that predators use..” (I think I saw that 3 times in reference to AYC) make their claim more convincing?

Editor and Mods, I’m sorry for sounding sooo not-ZeesKite, it’s my heart writing. It’s one of the middos Mommy implanted – ??????.

Zeeskite, I’m impressed, you said it beautifully. Let’s see if the mods and/or Jothar can accept the views of the many posters who are not in agreement with them.

moi aussi -“MiddlePath, your post could not have been written better. I’m surprised the mods allowed it, because it’s pointing the finger at them.

Smartcookie, you make a lot of sense when you say: “Btw, I was looking through AYC’s post where he writes I’m a kletzky. Looks to me like he meant to say- I am like the Kletzkys, I also had a family tragedy this summer.”

After reading the other posts/topics about this – I have to disagree. It is quite possible that he meant this and it’s quite possible he meant to manipulate. If he would e-mail the mods explaining his posting error -I’d think at that point we would have to be Dan L’caf Zecus. Right now we aren’t required to. The safety of the individual posters are more important.

“I’m wondering if the name Kletzky is the problem? If someone claimed to belong to the Twerski family would he/she also become a stalking suspect?

Smartcookie, I also agree that mods are not above making poor judgments. I will go even further by saying that mods are not above suspicion. NOBODY should be trusted, chabdehu vechashdehu applies to mods as well.

However, I will never understand what harm was done by AYC when he/she said “I am a Kletzky”. As I said earlier, if it’s true, what harm was done? If it’s a lie, who cares?”

If none of his post is true -it clearly points to stalker. I’m not in the security field, but it seems quite simple. The whole purpose of the lie was to continue the manipulation. Con men operate by gaining other’s trust. I don’t know if he is one, but the burden of proof is on him right now to prove he isn’t one.