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Lilmod,
Those poskim that hold that abortion is mutar in situations such as mamzeirus or severe genetic illness do not hold this way because of the emotional health of the mother qualifying as life-threatening. They don’t require there to be any danger to the mother for abortion to be permitted.
Rav Moshe paskens like the Rambam that abortion is retzicha. Rav Moshe is therefore very machmir on this issue. Other poskim, most prominently the Tzitz Eliezer, pasken like Rashi and Tosafos that abortion is not retzicha (the exact nature of the issur is a lengthy discussion).
Hopefully, none of us will ever be in a situation where they have to ask such a shaila. But if, G-d forbid, someone is in such a situation, it is important that they know that there is a shaila to ask.
benignuman -“Health! Fortunately, I do know what I am talking about. And I was talking about Jews. Do you think the States are going to make laws that only apply to non-Jews? If they ban abortion, it will apply to Jews as well.”
Stop with your hypocrisy!
Of course it applies to Jews also.
First of all, who do you think is the majority in this country – Jews or Goyim?!?
Second of all, you just posted on the previous page – that the States had exceptions for life threatening cases!
Health,
I am not sure if you are understanding what I am writing. Halachically, for Jews, there are many circumstances (including within 40 days of conception which I think would apply to non-Jews as well) in which abortion may be permitted (and some where it is required) according to many poskim. A federal law banning abortion except in life-threatening would apply nationally and would effect the Jewish population in every state. I would not want the Jews to be prevented from the option of an abortion in situations where it would be mutar.
Therefore, giving the issue back to the States to decide would be the best solution. If, chas v’shalom, someone was in a situation where they needed an abortion, they could always travel to one of the lenient states.
benignuman -“Health,
I am not sure if you are understanding what I am writing. Halachically, for Jews, there are many circumstances (including within
A federal law banning abortion except in life-threatening would apply nationally and would effect the Jewish population in every state. I would not want the Jews to be prevented from the option of an abortion in situations where it would be mutar.
Therefore, giving the issue back to the States to decide would be the best solution. If, chas v’shalom, someone was in a situation where they needed an abortion, they could always travel to one of the lenient states”
You obviously don’t understand my point!
I posted this previously:
“Unfortunately, all I heard Trump say – he’d return it to the States!
But I want it illegal everywhere!”
I want it illegal everywhere!
If so Yid wants an abortion, in a case where it’s not life threatening for the mother, but Mutter anyways, let them travel to a different different country!
You’re right. Every time an administration, republican or democrat, passed regulation on healthcare our policies were negatively affected. As a avid shopper for health insurance over the years. I watched the dominoes fall one by one.
However, there was no larger more significant challenge at one time to our healthcare than the one Obama passed. (In recent history)
Over the past couple of years I know of at least 5 good doctors in different fields that stopped practicing, stopped taking insurance or closed their practice to new patients because of the obamacare environment.
(A famous pediatrician whose medical malpractice insurance wasn’t covered by patients insurance payments. That pediatrician now takes cash only. A high risk OB who now takes cash only because insurance companies would send payments of $800 for full term deliveries. A vey well liked internist who closed his practice to new patients because of compensation.)
Coverage for all is not something Pres. Obama invented. It is the most basic logical proactive thing for a person to do in an uncertain world. It is the foundation on what all insurances are built on. By forcing companies to cover people with preexisting conditions you’re eroding that base.
That 19 year old is old enough to vote. Old enough to work. Old enough to join the army. But he’s not old enough to get coverage for himself?
By raising the age you’re also creating a scenario in which companies are losing out on a large amount of policies which translates to premiums. Which means loss of income. So now a struggling growing family is asked to cover a large group of young singles who are perfectly capable of working and contributing to their own wellbeing.
More later. Maybe.
“You’re right. Every time an administration, republican or democrat, passed regulation on healthcare our policies were negatively affected.”
Im not sure who “our” refers to in that sentence.
“I know of at least 5 good doctors in different fields that stopped practicing, stopped taking insurance or closed their practice to new patients because of the obamacare environment.”
I know dozens (literally) who have been saying that for decades. Their have been a couple shifts that led to this. Obamcare is but minor component.
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