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  • #2237267
    lakewhut
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    Shame on any Jew voted for him and Biden. You helped create a big mess.

    #2238359
    jackk
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    Shame on any Jew who voted for Bush, Bush and Trump.
    You helped create a big mess.

    #2238420
    ujm
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    Do the kinderlach need lunch?

    #2238448
    SQUARE_ROOT
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    “Increasing number of Jewish Democrats disillusioned with Obama”

    SOURCE: Title of article by Isi Leibler, seen in
    The Manhattan Jewish Sentinel, 2014 December 12th, page 3.
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    “Nearly a quarter of Obama’s voters were under age 30; a first in American politics.
    Two-thirds of voters under 30 cast their ballot for Obama; also a first.”

    SOURCE: What American Really Want
    (chapter 4, page 141) by Dr. Frank I. Luntz, year 2009
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    “Barack Obama set the bar for U.S-Israeli relations so low that there’s literally no Israel-related issue on which Trump has been worse than his predecessor.
    And there are many on which he’s been not just modestly better, but spectacularly so.”

    SOURCE: Understanding Israel’s love affair with Trump
    by Evelyn Gordon 2018/3/14 www JNS org

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    “Obama’s hostility towards Israel, his repeated intimations that Israel is a colonialist outpost while the Palestinians are the indigenous people of the land of Israel were part and parcel of his across-the-board effort to enable the radical Left to take over the party.”

    SOURCE: Heeding Dem warnings
    by Caroline B. Glick, 2018 May 25 www dot JewishWorldReview dot com

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    “When Barack Obama was elected president, this mood changed.

    He began to treat Israel as a rogue state, grovel to the Iranians, describe Israeli defenders and Arab terrorists as moral equivalents, and finally declined to veto the most biased and despicable resolution ever passed against Israel by the UN Security Council.

    The response by the majority of the American Jewish establishment, who were previously never reticent about raising their voices, was a deafening silence.”

    SOURCE: Where Are America’s Jewish Leaders?
    by Isi Leibler, 2019/1/31 www dot algemeiner dot com

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    Vic Rosenthal said:

    The idea of trading Israel’s security for the friendship of Iran continued through the Obama Administration. The Iranians reacted cynically, taking what they could get while still chanting “death to America.” Obama’s Defense Department applied pressure to the Israeli defense establishment in 2012 to scuttle a plan to bomb the centers of Iranian nuclear development, at a time when the window of opportunity to seriously set back the program was significantly wider than it is today.

    SOURCE: When will the Snake Finally Lose its Head? by Vic Rosenthal

    #2238469
    ubiquitin
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    Its hard to imagine the how mcuh worse current war without the Iron dome, that Obama had requested funding for
    Obama has likely saved more Jewish lives than anyone in history since Mordechai and Esther. Thank you Hashem for sending us this shliach

    #2238499
    Marxist
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    Say what you want about Obama, but an anti-Semite he is not.

    #2238516
    ujm
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    I didn’t read exactly what Obama said, but Alan Dershowitz condemned Obama this week as a terror supporter.

    #2238523
    Gadolhadorah
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    The same Alan Dershowitz who has reinvented himself as Trump’s favorite Jewish lawyer and who has made a small fortune selling books and appearing on OAN and NewsMax claiming poor Donald is being persecuted???

    #2238569
    jackk
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    ujm,

    That is exactly what Dershowitz would say. “I didn’t hear what Obama said but from what the Obama hater quoted him as saying , I condemn him.”

    Maybe next time people should actually listen to what he said.

    #2238583
    ujm
    Participant

    Jack: Please share with me what Obama said, that triggered this outrage.

    #2238589
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    @Jackk everyone know that Obama is a close second to Jimmy Carter for the love of Israel

    #2238595
    boyaner
    Participant

    I think voting for the candidate who helps israel always backfires for jews in the long term because of the political pendulum of usa. Obama was a bad president because he was a corrupt phony who made everyone in america more conscious of race in usa
    Under obama more riots , wars , wasteful spending than any previous administration,
    Trump was good for isreal and now look who is in office ? Sleepy joe fast asleep saturday morning 10/07

    #2238596
    boyaner
    Participant

    I think voting for the candidate who helps israel always backfires for jews in the long term because of the political pendulum of usa. Obama was a bad president because he was a corrupt phony who made everyone in america more conscious of race in usa
    Under obama more riots , wars , wasteful spending than any previous administration,
    Trump was good for isreal and now look who is in office ? Sleepy joe fast asleep saturday morning 10/07
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    #2238821
    jackk
    Participant

    ujm,

    No.
    Go listen to him yourself. The whole session from beginning to end. And not soundbites out of context. Then come back and describe what he said.

    commonseychel,

    He loves Israel more than Trump ever will. He is a religious christian not a fake phony fraud who never goes near a church except for photo opportunities.

    #2238788
    Sam Klein
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    Obama is a %100 Bnei Yishmael and believes he has a Mitzvah to hate Jews and was actually supposed to be Hashems shliach to put even America which is a Christian country into the hands of the Bnei Yishmael cause Hashem said that before Mashiach comes the entire world is going to be against klal yisroel and the Bnei Yishmael are going to be the last nation to fight klal yisroel before Mashiach comes so Hashem took America away from Bush before Obama and made Obama the Shliach and president of the United States to run the country but we didn’t take Hashems wake up call for serious Teshuva and Achdus together as one loving nation and failed the test while Obama was president and now we are still in golus rachmana litzlan.

    May we finally stop living in denial and immediately accept Hashems wake up call for serious Teshuva and Achdus together ASAP so Hashem can send Mashiach already bkarov

    #2238876
    commonsaychel
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    @Jackk, Carter loves Israel??????????????? please let me know what your smoking

    #2238880
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    @Sam Klein, please get your facts right, Obama has zero yeshmali blood, he is a mix of bnai chom and bnai yafas

    #2238932
    jackk
    Participant

    common saychel,
    I don’t ingest the stuff that you take.
    It is clear what the religious belief’s of the 99 Year old ex-president , who hasn’t been politically active for 40 years, and is on his deathbed, are. Carter is a religious Protestant who can be referred to as a Southern Baptist, an evangelical and as born again.
    There is peace between Egypt and Israel only because of him.

    I am also positive that Obama is not and never was a Sonei Yisroel.

    And I am sure that if you go to Trump and tell him to his face that you are voting for DeSantis he will spit at you despite the Kippah on your head and the Israeli flag in your hand.

    #2238933
    jackk
    Participant

    Here are Obama’s thoughts on the conflict. He clearly is not a sonei yisrael or hater of the State of Israel.

    “It’s been 17 days since Hamas launched its horrific attack against Israel, killing over 1,400 Israeli citizens, including defenseless women, children and the elderly. In the aftermath of such unspeakable brutality, the U.S. government and the American people have shared in the grief of families, prayed for the return of loved ones, and rightly declared solidarity with the Israeli people.

    As I stated in an earlier post, Israel has a right to defend its citizens against such wanton violence, and I fully support President Biden’s call for the United States to support our long-time ally in going after Hamas, dismantling its military capabilities, and facilitating the safe return of hundreds of hostages to their families.

    But even as we support Israel, we should also be clear that how Israel prosecutes this fight against Hamas matters. In particular, it matters — as President Biden has repeatedly emphasized — that Israel’s military strategy abides by international law, including those laws that seek to avoid, to every extent possible, the death or suffering of civilian populations. Upholding these values is important for its own sake — because it is morally just and reflects our belief in the inherent value of every human life. Upholding these values is also vital for building alliances and shaping international opinion — all of which are critical for Israel’s long-term security.

    This is an enormously difficult task. War is always tragic, and even the most carefully planned military operations often put civilians at risk. As President Biden noted during his recent visit to Israel, America itself has at times fallen short of our higher values when engaged in war, and in the aftermath of 9/11, the U.S. government wasn’t interested in heeding the advice of even our allies when it came to the steps we took to protect ourselves against Al Qaeda. Now, after the systematic massacre of Israeli citizens, a massacre that evokes some of the darkest memories of persecution against the Jewish people, it’s understandable that many Israelis have demanded that their government do whatever it takes to root out Hamas and make sure such attacks never happen again. Moreover, Hamas’ military operations are deeply embedded within Gaza — and its leadership seems to intentionally hide among civilians, thereby endangering the very people they claim to represent.

    Still, the world is watching closely as events in the region unfold, and any Israeli military strategy that ignores the human costs could ultimately backfire. Already, thousands of Palestinians have been killed in the bombing of Gaza, many of them children. Hundreds of thousands have been forced from their homes. The Israeli government’s decision to cut off food, water and electricity to a captive civilian population threatens not only to worsen a growing humanitarian crisis; it could further harden Palestinian attitudes for generations, erode global support for Israel, play into the hands of Israel’s enemies, and undermine long term efforts to achieve peace and stability in the region.

    It’s therefore important that those of us supporting Israel in its time of need encourage a strategy that can incapacitate Hamas while minimizing further civilian casualties. Israel’s recent shift to allow relief trucks into Gaza, prompted in part by the Biden administration’s behind-the-scenes diplomacy, is an encouraging step, but we need to continue to lead the international community in accelerating critical aid and supplies to an increasingly desperate Gaza population. And while the prospects of future peace may seem more distant than ever, we should call on all of the key actors in the region to engage with those Palestinian leaders and organizations that recognize Israel’s right to exist to begin articulating a viable pathway for Palestinians to achieve their legitimate aspirations for self-determination — because that is the best and perhaps only way to achieve the lasting peace and security most Israeli and Palestinian families yearn for.

    Finally, in dealing with what is an extraordinarily complex situation where so many people are in pain and passions are understandably running high, all of us need to do our best to put our best values, rather than our worst fears, on display.

    That means actively opposing anti-semitism in all its forms, everywhere. It means rejecting efforts to minimize the terrible tragedy that the Israeli people have just endured, as well as the morally-bankrupt suggestion that any cause can somehow justify the deliberate slaughter of innocent people.

    It means rejecting anti-Muslim, anti-Arab or anti-Palestinian sentiment. It means refusing to lump all Palestinians with Hamas or other terrorist groups. It means guarding against dehumanizing language towards the people of Gaza, or downplaying Palestinian suffering — whether in Gaza or the West Bank — as irrelevant or illegitimate.

    It means recognizing that Israel has every right to exist; that the Jewish people have claim to a secure homeland where they have ancient historical roots; and that there have been instances in which previous Israeli governments made meaningful efforts to resolve the dispute and provide a path for a two-state solution — efforts that were ultimately rebuffed by the other side.

    It means acknowledging that Palestinians have also lived in disputed territories for generations; that many of them were not only displaced when Israel was formed but continue to be forcibly displaced by a settler movement that too often has received tacit or explicit support from the Israeli government; that Palestinian leaders who’ve been willing to make concessions for a two-state solution have too often had little to show for their efforts; and that it is possible for people of good will to champion Palestinian rights and oppose certain Israeli government policies in the West Bank and Gaza without being anti-semitic.

    Perhaps most of all, it means we should choose not to always assume the worst in those with whom we disagree. In an age of constant rancor, trolling and misinformation on social media, at a time when so many politicians and attention seekers see an advantage in shedding heat rather than light, it may be unrealistic to expect respectful dialogue on any issue — much less on an issue with such high stakes and after so much blood has been spilled. But if we care about keeping open the possibility of peace, security and dignity for future generations of Israeli and Palestinian children — as well as for our own children — then it falls upon all of us to at least make the effort to model, in our own words and actions, the kind of world we want them to inherit.”

    #2239016
    yechiell
    Participant

    why would a sonei yisroel send tons and tons of arms to israel every year he was president.
    obviously he is not a sonei yisroel
    people shoot their mouths off too quickly

    #2239111
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    @Jackk, Carter wrote the book calling Israel an Apartheid state and now we are sowing what he reaped, Jimmy always had an issue with Israel and was very open about it, Obama come in a close second as to his dislike of Israel, Trump rarely has an original thought on anything besides Donald Trump and when it came to Israel he let Jared and David Friedman call the shots not a bunch of Arabist in the DOS.
    PS I am supporting Nikki Hailey in 2024 and would tell that to him to his face

    #2239143
    SQUARE_ROOT
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    I was a teenager when Jimmy Carter was President.

    In those years, I read 3 different newspapers every day (from beginning to end), and I also watched television news whenever possible. I remember Jimmy Carter very well.

    During the Camp David Peace Negotiations, when Jimmy Carter looked at Anwar Sadat [the leader of Egypt], his face was beaming with happiness and approval, like a teacher looking at his best student.

    But when Jimmy Carter looked at the Prime Minister of Israel, his face was overflowing with unhappiness and disapproval, like a teacher looking at his worst student who just causes problems all the time.

    In year 1980, when Jimmy Carter lost his attempt to get re-elected, he blamed the Jews, even though 85% of American Jews voted for him in that election.

    Only African-Americans claimed a higher percentage who voted for Jimmy Carter.

    Since Jews were only 2% of the USA’s population at that time, Jimmy Carter would not have won re-election, even if 100% of Jews voted for him; but that did not stop him from blaming the Jews, which indicates that his accusation was not based on facts or logic.

    In year 2006, Jimmy Carter published a book titled:
    “Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid” (ISBN 978-0-7432-8502-5)
    which helped to spread the false accusation that Israel is an apartheid state.
    This was his revenge against Jews,
    because “only” 85% of American Jews voted for him.

    Somehow the intense racism of Arab nations was never noticed by Jimmy Carter, or the mainstream news media, or the European Union, or the United Nations Organization.

    PS: Even Alan Dershowitz has castigated Carter for his anti-Semitism.

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    Just one quick reminder of how STUPID “President” Jimmy Carter was:

    When the value of the USA dollar decreased rapidly because of inflation, Jimmy Carter “solved” the problem by ordering the government to print two-dollar-bills; either for the first time in USA history (or maybe the first time since the late-1700s).

    #2239217
    ujm
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    SR: Carter is an antisemite and a rasha. But your history of the $2 bill is completely inaccurate. It long predates Carter’s presidency, which he took office of in 1977.

    #2239373
    jackk
    Participant

    Trump is a bigger anti Semite and rasha

    #2239375
    jackk
    Participant

    Maybe if you actually read Carter’s book you will realize how non antisemitic it is.

    #2239408
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    @Jackk. “Trump is a bigger anti Semite and rasha” how very juvenile.

    #2239409
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    Dear Jackk,

    No offense intended, but you missed the point.

    99.9% of people who hear about Jimmy Carter’s book will NEVER read the book — but they will remember THE TITLE OF THE BOOK, which strongly [and falsely] implies that Israel is an apartheid state.

    You seem determined to always judge The Democrats favorably, even when the facts do not permit it, and even though there is no Torah requirement to judge them favorably.

    I distinctly remember Jimmy Carter publicly stating that his re-election failed BECAUSE OF THE JEWS, even though 85% of Jews voted for him in that election (yes, I am that old!)

    Most important of all, Jimmy Carter’s book eventually helped persuade hundreds of millions of people that Israel is an apartheid state.

    Most important of all, Jimmy Carter’s book eventually helped persuade many millions people that Israel HAS NO RIGHT TO EXIST, and should be wiped-off-the-map, by any means possible, including terrorism.

    Because of Jimmy Carter’s book, any Jew who supports Israel can be ACCUSED OF RACISM, which is one of the most devastating accusations in our times.

    Why do you insist on judging Jimmy Carter favorably, even after the devastating damage that he did against Israel’s reputation (and indirectly, against ALL Jews, even those who never visited Israel)?

    As I write these words, I clearly understand that you (and those like you) will never, NEVER, *** NEVER *** listen, forever and ever and ever and ever.
    But I try to answer your question anyway, just in case a sincere person is listening.

    #2239424

    ProBiden articles before 2020 election addressed unease of an Obama vp: the claim was that Biden was the mature member of the team. While others viewed Israel as the occupier, Biden allegedly remembered 1973 and understood that Israel feels vulnerable.

    #2239491
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    @Jackk, the diference between me and you is that I will readily admit that the Republican Party had its share of Anti Semites such as Pat Buchanan, you can never admit the Democrats have a rich history of jew hate from Cordell Hull and FDR, to Joe Kennedy to Zbigniew Brzezinski and Jimmy Carter to Obama to AOC and the squad.

    #2239565
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    When Obama was President, the Prime Minister of Israel was once forced to leave the White House though the back door, which is normally only used by low-level servants, like: security guards and janitors and repair men and cooks.

    This was intended to publicly humiliate the Prime Minister of Israel.

    In the entire history of the United States of America (USA), the Prime Minister of Israel was the *** ONLY *** world leader to suffer that humiliation, and it was done to him by President Barack Hussein OBAMA.

    Prior to that, President Barack Hussein OBAMA and the Prime Minister of Israel were having a one-to-one discussion. Obama just suddenly left the meeting in the middle, leaving the Prime Minister of Israel by himself. This is a very rude thing to do, especially to a Prime Minister.

    Considering the intentional humiliation that Obama inflicted on the Prime Minister of Israel , you might think that Israel is an enemy of America and a brutal dictatorship — but Israel is neither of those things: It is an ally of America, and the only democracy in the Middle East.

    When Obama was President, people often complained (because it was true) the he treated America’s allies as if they were enemies and he also treated America’s enemies as if they were allies.

    #2239608
    jackk
    Participant

    square root ,
    Now tell us all the times that Netanyahu embarrassed America and it’s leaders , including the President.
    They were not friends but that has nothing to do with anti-semitism.

    #2239826
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Jackk,

    Maybe you could

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