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October 10, 2016 12:54 am at 12:54 am #618502always runs with scissors fastParticipant
I certainly hope there would not be any normal, frum, ehrlich sane Yidden voting for him in light of the recent recordings revealing and proving he is a disgusting lowlife.
Washington Post revealed his immoral, offensive, insulting and aggressive attitues towards women and his lack of all morals.
If this doesn’t deter us from making him our leader, what does that say about our values?
October 10, 2016 1:01 am at 1:01 am #1187249JosephParticipantNothing revealed over there past few days is any surprise or anything out of character of what has been known about the immoral Trump over the past thirty years.
That said, Bill Clinton, whom Hillary has stood by and enabled his immoral activities for many decades including by her attaching the victims of Bill, is far worse than Trump.
October 10, 2016 1:06 am at 1:06 am #1187250MDGParticipantUnfortunately, the other main choice is no better.
I plan on abstaining, if not writing in someone.
October 10, 2016 1:35 am at 1:35 am #1187251PosterMemberalways runs with scissors fast, The clintons are guilty of the same.
October 10, 2016 1:36 am at 1:36 am #1187252👑RebYidd23ParticipantI would never.
October 10, 2016 1:41 am at 1:41 am #1187253SparklyMemberim voting for him h’h. whats wrong with him? sorry i havent gotten a chance to listen to his speeches anymore.
October 10, 2016 2:30 am at 2:30 am #1187254akupermaParticipantWhen was Trump anything else? When was Clinton anything else? They appear to be what they have always been.
if you want honesty, principles, and somewhat not acting like a bully – vote for Johnson.
October 10, 2016 2:36 am at 2:36 am #1187255Mashiach AgentMemberhes still the better of the 2 as disgusting as he is she is way worse
October 10, 2016 3:48 am at 3:48 am #1187256yehudayonaParticipantJohnson may be honest, but he’s way out of his depth. He’s totally clueless about foreign affairs. I’m trying to decide whom to write in.
Joseph, Bill Clinton isn’t running for president any more than Melania Trump is.
October 10, 2016 3:51 am at 3:51 am #1187257LightbriteParticipantalways runs with scissors fast: AMEN & Thank you for posting!!! May it be so that this person is rejected completely by this country please with Hashem’s help.
October 10, 2016 4:15 am at 4:15 am #1187258SparklyMemberjohnson has a chance this time.
October 10, 2016 4:29 am at 4:29 am #1187259JosephParticipantYY, the point is that Hillary has always, and still does, stand by her man in defending him from his vulgar actions against numerous women over multiple decades and Hillary has attacked Bill’s victims for daring to speak out against her man for the immoral wrongs he’s committed against his victims.
Again, point being Hillary attacked these female victims of her husband, whose actions against them she’s defended.
October 10, 2016 4:34 am at 4:34 am #1187260☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIf she hadn’t stuck up for him, he would have divorced her, and you know how terrible Rav Avigdor Miller said it is to get divorced.
October 10, 2016 6:07 am at 6:07 am #1187261dbrimParticipantLOL, Crooked. Seriously, scissors – spare us the moral posturing – Clinton is a criminal – she belongs behind bars. The video revealed NOTHING – Yes, Trump is a menuval, we knew that, so was Bill, but more so. Unfortunately this is how goyim talk and act and these are our pathetic choices for president. I’m questioning the way you express yourself – “all normal, frum, eirliche, sane yidden…” – what a fine way to talk about Yidden you disagree with! FYI, Most normal sane eirliche yidden here in E”Y are voting for Trump – you might want to re-examine your values – insulting Jews with a political perspective that differs from yours speaks volumes as does supporting a sonei yisroel like Clinton.
October 10, 2016 7:55 am at 7:55 am #1187262american_yerushalmiParticipantIt’s a question of voting for the lesser rasha. Trump is mushchas who at least publicly stands for what is good for America. Clinton is a mushcheses who openly declares her intent and desire to bring down the U.S.A.
We should vote for the one who will do the least damage to the U.S. and perhaps to the entire world. It’s fairly clear which candidate fits that description.
October 10, 2016 10:38 am at 10:38 am #1187263Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantCrookedHillary – lol.
Joseph – I thought the wife is supposed to be subservient to her husband…
October 10, 2016 11:50 am at 11:50 am #1187264ubiquitinParticipantEditors Note: Why YWN Will NOT Be Streaming The Presidential Debate Tonight
If the actions/personality/speech/attitude of a candidate is so offensive that as a result of said candidate, a presidential debate (!!!) is deemed to be unfit for a yeshiva-website (a position thta is hard to argue with)
I dont understand how anyone who describes themselves as belonging to said “Yeshiva world” can vote for such an individual.
Say what you will about Hilary, and I’m not disputing that she too is a bad person. But as bad as she is, nothing she said has precluded her from being featured on a yeshiva website.
October 10, 2016 5:17 pm at 5:17 pm #1187266american_yerushalmiParticipantTo Ubiquitin: Hilarious is no less spiritually degenerate than Donald. But, being a woman, she has not allowed herself to speak in quite the same manner as 2 guys who thought no one was listening. Which teaches us something important: “The microphone is *always* on….”
Have mercy on the U.S.A. and the rest of the world by keeping Hilary-ous out of the White House. Right now, the only, and rather distastful way to do it is to vote Trump.
October 10, 2016 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #1187267hujuParticipantIn answer to the opening poster’s question: Frum Jews who support Trump after hearing Trump describe his assaults on women within his grasp are, to steal a phrase, fake phony frauds. Maybe you have been fooled into thinking he is a great businessman (he’s not), or a tax expert (his accountant is, but he’s not), or just enormously smart (he’s not even close), but being so mistaken about those things does not make you reprehensible. But if you heard the tape of his descriptions of his own assaults on women, and still think he deserves the support of a frum Jew, you are egregiously wrong.
October 10, 2016 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #1187268tiawdParticipantI can understand frum Jews who will vote for Trump because they believe he’s better than Hillary, but how can any decent frum person like him?!
October 10, 2016 8:56 pm at 8:56 pm #1187269ubiquitinParticipantamericanyerushalmi
“But, being a woman, she has not allowed herself to speak in quite the same manner as 2 guys”
Um that makes her “less spiritually degenerate” Even in the imaginary world where the two are “equally spiritually degenerate” that one can say wh ta he says makes him worse.
“Hilarious is no less spiritually degenerate than Donald”
B’seder so dont vote hillarious.
huju
very well put
October 10, 2016 9:02 pm at 9:02 pm #1187270Mashiach AgentMembertiawd
we don’t like him hes just the better of the 2 but they are both worse then cruz
October 10, 2016 9:51 pm at 9:51 pm #1187271HealthParticipantHuju -“Maybe you have been fooled into thinking he is a great businessman (he’s not), or a tax expert (his accountant is, but he’s not), or just enormously smart (he’s not even close), but being so mistaken about those things does not make you reprehensible”
Question – What has Hillary accomplished?!?
As first lady she embarrassed V. Foster & a week later he killed himself!
As Secretary of State – she ignored the seriousness during the crisis in Libya, causing Americans to die, including the US ambassador!
Now as President (Lo Aleinu) – she can turn us into another Europe – with all their terrorist attacks!
Hurray!!!
October 10, 2016 10:13 pm at 10:13 pm #1187272hujuParticipantReply to Health: Hillary was an effective US senator and secretary of state. Those are accomplishments. The baloney about her responsibility for the deaths at Benghazi is, well, baloney. And her connection to the death of Vince Foster is nonsense.
I don’t like Hillary for a lot of reasons (mainly her arrogance and bad decisions about using her own e-mail server – which is irresponsible but not criminal), but Trump is incompetent, petulant, childish, and disgraceful. There are 2 and only 2 choices in this election, and Trump is by far the worse choice.
October 10, 2016 11:08 pm at 11:08 pm #11872732scentsParticipantIs it a crime to delete emails (33,000 of them) after getting a subpoena?
October 11, 2016 1:09 am at 1:09 am #1187274147ParticipantIn view of the upcoming ???-????? ?????-????? ????? I shall definitely be voting for President Donald Trump, so as to blockade & preclude the possibility of Hillary placing any immoral debased judges on the supreme court Heaven Forbid.
As recently as last nite’s presidential debate:- Hillary was so full of “Lie Lie Liar”. Meanwhile, for the entire debate, I could not find 1 word of ??? from President Donald Trump, for the entire duration of the debate.
I don’t care what President Donald Trump said 11 years ago in a locker room. I care about America’s future, and am sticking to the important issues, and shall not be sidetracked by this 11 year old non-consequential remark.
This election, the choice couldn’t be clearer:- Vote President Donald Trump, and save & pave the way {quote from 1st verse of the upcoming ???-????? ?????-????? ??????} for America to have a Glorious future.
October 11, 2016 2:24 am at 2:24 am #1187275oomisParticipantI don’t like what Trump said. It was crude, vulgar, nivul peh of the highest order. BUT – he did not do what Bill Clinton did while in office. And unlike Hillary, he did not call a bunch of special needs children “ree-tards” or curse at secret service people or other White House personnel on a regular basis. For every crude thing Trump has said, there is a wealth of vulgarity and criminality on the parts of the Clintons.
I don’t love Donald Trump. But I absolutely cannot abide that woman.If this was the best person our country could find to run as the first female presidential candidate, it is uch and vey. We are in trouble no matter who is elected. But I am hoping if The Donald makes it, that Mike Pence will be the mitigating factor. Tim Kaine is just scary.
October 11, 2016 3:00 am at 3:00 am #1187276👑RebYidd23Participant5% matters.
October 11, 2016 4:36 pm at 4:36 pm #1187277HealthParticipanthuju -“Reply to Health: Hillary was an effective US senator and secretary of state. Those are accomplishments. The baloney about her responsibility for the deaths at Benghazi is, well, baloney. And her connection to the death of Vince Foster is nonsense.
I don’t like Hillary for a lot of reasons”
Why isn’t she responsible for the death in Benghazi? The job of SoS is to protect those under her and e/o knew about the siege in Libya?!?
Also she embarrassed Foster in public a week before his suicide!
Do you believe in the Torah that says embarrassing s/o is equivalent to killing him?!?
October 11, 2016 6:19 pm at 6:19 pm #1187278MDGParticipant” And her connection to the death of Vince Foster is nonsense.”
DOZENS of people in Arkansas who were connected to the Clintons have seemed to commit suicide or were killed.
Google the word arkancide
October 11, 2016 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #1187279Matan1ParticipantHealth, people don’t commit suicide because they were embarrassed. It’s a terrible misunderstanding of the nature of depression.
Besides, do you really think that Trump has never embarrassed anyone before?
October 13, 2016 12:47 am at 12:47 am #1187280chizuk1ParticipantWait, you mean he was revealed as a “Goy?”
Wow. That wasn’t news to me, last I checked.
October 13, 2016 1:47 am at 1:47 am #1187281TheGoqParticipantIn the words of Secretary Clinton “at this point what difference does it make”?
October 13, 2016 3:34 am at 3:34 am #1187282thebabblerMembermany people have taken their lives after great embarrassment
October 13, 2016 4:03 am at 4:03 am #1187283HealthParticipantMatan1 -“Health, people don’t commit suicide because they were embarrassed. It’s a terrible misunderstanding of the nature of depression.”
Stop coming here to post your anti-Torah view!
You obviously don’t believe in the Torah that says embarrassing s/o is equivalent to killing him!
And anyways the FBI said this about Vince Foster, not me!
From the Washington Times: (Not the National Enquirer)
October 13, 2016 4:14 am at 4:14 am #1187284👑RebYidd23ParticipantOomis, why does it matter that Donald Trump was not in office at the time that he did what he did?
October 13, 2016 1:29 pm at 1:29 pm #1187285Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantMy guess would be that if someone is a wonderful emotional state, they won’t commit suicide after being embarrassed, but if they are already depressed, it might be a contributing factor.
In general, we have no idea what the effects of our words and actions are, for good or for bad, and we have to always be extremely careful about everything we do. There are many stories of people who were about to commit suicide and changed their minds at the last minute because one person was a bit friendly to them at the right moment. Even if you are not preventing a suicide by being friendly, you may uplift the person’s mood and he may then prevent someone from committing suicide or he may make a life-altering decision.
We cannot fathom the effect of our simple actions!
October 13, 2016 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm #1187286Matan1ParticipantHealth, of course I believe in it. I just don’t believe it to be literal. Bais Din doesn’t use the death penalty as a punishment for embarrassing someone.
And you didn’t answer my question. Has Donald Trump never embarrassed anyone?
October 13, 2016 3:35 pm at 3:35 pm #1187287HealthParticipantLU -“Even if you are not preventing a suicide by being friendly, you may uplift the person’s mood and he may then prevent someone from committing suicide or he may make a life-altering decision.”
Anybody can uplift my spirits by finding me a Shidduch!
October 13, 2016 6:31 pm at 6:31 pm #1187288👑RebYidd23ParticipantBut you’re a Trump supporter.
October 13, 2016 7:52 pm at 7:52 pm #1187289HealthParticipantMatan1 or should I say Charlie -“And you didn’t answer my question. Has Donald Trump never embarrassed anyone?”
Yes he has. Unfortunately for you – you never learnt in a real Yeshiva!
There’s a difference between types of embarrassment!
Malbin Pnei Chavero is worse!
I’ll repeat what I posted before:
It wasn’t me!
October 13, 2016 10:26 pm at 10:26 pm #1187290Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantHealth – just a word of advice if you really want people to set you up – maybe you should try working on how you address other people. You are entitled to disagree with others, but it can be done without personal affronts such as “You never learnt in a real Yeshiva!”
October 14, 2016 3:06 am at 3:06 am #1187291yehudayonaParticipantGoogle International bankers conspiracy. It has long been a favorite theme of anti-semites.
October 14, 2016 3:52 am at 3:52 am #1187292It is Time for TruthParticipantlilmod ulelamaid,
It is doubtful you or any of us are aware of Health’s identity
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It is doubtful if he is like in in the real world
yehudayona,
How about the wikileaks showing Hillary’s interest in aliens?
October 14, 2016 4:18 am at 4:18 am #1187293HealthParticipantLU -“Health – just a word of advice if you really want people to set you up – maybe you should try working on how you address other people. You are entitled to disagree with others, but it can be done without personal affronts such as “You never learnt in a real Yeshiva!”
No one asked you for your advice! Don’t be such a know-it-all!
I’ve been here a long time and so have other posters, so I make comments that are geared towards them!
You just joined the CR, but you think that you know-it-all!
Have you ever heard – Siyog L’chocmah Shtikah?!?
October 14, 2016 5:14 am at 5:14 am #1187294Mussar47MemberHillary is a sonei Yisroel and if she has health issues and cannot finish out her term, Kaine is an even bigger sonei Yisroel.
This is a major issue to be concerned about. Both candidates are not “role models” in any shape or form but Trump will be proIsrael and that is something we must keep in mind.
October 14, 2016 5:31 am at 5:31 am #1187295yehudayonaParticipantTruth, Hillary’s interest in aliens (the kind from other planets, not the kind from other countries) is merely weird. Trump’s blaming a cabal of international bankers is scary. B”H I’m not voting for either of them.
October 14, 2016 9:14 am at 9:14 am #1187296SoftwordsParticipantWhen Hashem created the world for man he created a Malach called Satan who’s job it is to prevent man from serving Hashem. Satan asked Hashem, “Why do you want me to try to stop them from serving you”? Hashem replied, “So that they will receive reward by listening to me and not you”. “How shall I stop them from doing mitvot?”, ask Satan. “Get them occupied with pursuing their desires”, responded Hashem. The Satan then asked, “…but how will I get them to stop learning your Holy Torah? After all, it brings incredible joy to whoever toils in it and each word makes them holy! Besides the reward in Olam Habah is unimaginable! What in the world could I ever use to draw them away from learning Torah?!” “Simple…”, retorted Hashem, “Politics”!
October 20, 2016 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm #1187299yeshivishe kupParticipantright now theres a guy named evan mcmullin, whos trying to pull off a write in campaign. he seems like a great guy, just no one knows him. look him up and check out his website…..
October 20, 2016 3:05 pm at 3:05 pm #1187300HealthParticipantYK -“right now theres a guy named evan mcmullin, whos trying to pull off a write in campaign. he seems like a great guy, just no one knows him. look him up and check out his website”
Right now – e/o is bias against Trump. But he’s the only one that has a real chance of beating Hillary!
If she wins, you can count on more killing of babies, even in the ninth month!
Also, we’ll be just like Europe, with all their Muslims and their terrorism!
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