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April 6, 2012 4:58 pm at 4:58 pm #602839ED IT ORParticipant
Good erev yom tov
are we allowed to post?
April 6, 2012 9:12 pm at 9:12 pm #866727cb1Memberdepends on who your rabbi is.
April 6, 2012 9:51 pm at 9:51 pm #866728ToiParticipantwhy not? if you can backspace after writing the shem Hashem why cant you type?
April 6, 2012 9:56 pm at 9:56 pm #866729sheinMemberOnly if its essential.
April 8, 2012 1:58 am at 1:58 am #866731Avi KParticipantEven if it is considered writing (actually there are a number of pixels which the human eye cannot differentiate) It will be erased after you post. See ????? ??? ?????? ?”? ?’ ?? ???? ??? in the name of Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach regarding writing on on a blackboard with chalk.However, there are those who disagree (regarding writing on a blackboard (ibid) but maybe a computer screen is easier for the above reason.
April 9, 2012 2:19 am at 2:19 am #866732Sam2ParticipantToi’s S’vara is perfect. Hence, since Rav Elyashiv Assers writing Shem Hashem (or any Divrei Torah-goodbye Bar Ilan) on a computer screen, you can’t type of Chol Hamo’ed either.
April 9, 2012 4:32 am at 4:32 am #866733RABBAIMParticipantTyping on a computer is not called kesiva as far as Chol Hamoed is concerned. Printing out what is written is assur.
April 9, 2012 5:21 am at 5:21 am #866734Right PathMemberSam2:
Can you please post your source. What was his reason for assuring writing Shem Hashem on a computer. Thanks.
What i am writing now is just a bunch of 0’s and 1’s.
As for what appears on your screen its a Ksav Shain Miskayem.
What your looking at right now is actully flashing on and off over 30 times a second.
Acourding to what Sam2 says from Rav Elyashiv (still not confirmed) bringing a tape cassette in to the bathroom should also be Assur.
Whats the difference between the 0’s and 1’s on your harddrive and the magnetic strip of your cassette tape ?
April 9, 2012 5:33 am at 5:33 am #866735sheinMemberRight Path: And writing is really just a splurge of ink on wood (paper).
RABBAIM: So you cant print a webpage, even if you never wrote anything?
April 9, 2012 5:55 am at 5:55 am #866736ToiParticipantmy rebbe paskins that you can backspace on the Shem Hasem.
April 9, 2012 6:29 am at 6:29 am #866737Right PathMembershein: Stop “haking” around. You get my point. Give me a normal answer.
Taking a photograph with a film camera may also be a problem.
On second thought i would think its not a problem.
Taking a picture only creates a chemical change to the photographic film inside the camera.
But no image actuly forms an till the film is developed.
April 9, 2012 11:36 am at 11:36 am #866738sheinMemberRight Path: and writing on paper is just a bunch of ink splatter. So by your logic it is okay for that reason.
April 9, 2012 11:41 am at 11:41 am #866739ED IT ORParticipantApril 9, 2012 2:32 pm at 2:32 pm #866740Sam2ParticipantRight Path: I don’t know if he published it. He told this a major Posek personally who I spoke to about this. When he mentioned to him that this would make Bar Ilan a huge problem, Rav Elyashiv said, “Tzrich Lefarsem”. And it doesn’t matter how the Shem is created scientifically. The fact is that there is a visible Shem Hashem and closing the computer window causes that to be erased. There’s no visible Shem Hashem on a cassette. (But I can’t speak for R’ Elyashiv; maybe he’d hold that that’s a problem too.)
April 9, 2012 5:05 pm at 5:05 pm #866741Right PathMemberSam2 Thanks for the source.
Its just a little hard to understand. The Shem may be visible to the human eye but technically speaking its not realy there.
Its flashing on and off many times a second.
So the Ksav is not a Ksav Hamiskayem
April 9, 2012 6:38 pm at 6:38 pm #866742ZeesKiteParticipantCrazybrit: I agree with most of what you wrote. The last sentence I disagree.
April 9, 2012 7:16 pm at 7:16 pm #866743yeshivaguy45ParticipantR’ Doniel Neustadt holds that writing on a computer screen is not considered a ksav. When you write on a piece of paper, the ink goes on the paper. Ksav means attaching ink to a paper. On a computer screen,letters that appear on the screen are not being attached to the screen.
April 9, 2012 7:25 pm at 7:25 pm #866744mewhoParticipanti think posting is the same as writing
April 10, 2012 2:51 am at 2:51 am #866745sam4321ParticipantMachlokes poskim: see piskei tshuvos hilchos chol hamoed page 56, siman 545:2 footnotes 9,10,11,13.
April 10, 2012 3:20 am at 3:20 am #866746Right PathMemberSam4321 Thanks!
April 10, 2012 4:17 am at 4:17 am #866747sam4321ParticipantSam2: interestingly in Sefer vayishma Moshe(piskei Rav Eliyashiv) it says that to record something is not kisiva,but can only be done by davar shavad.
April 10, 2012 4:42 am at 4:42 am #866748sam4321ParticipantRight path : your welcome. Regarding pictures,piskei tshuvos matirs it from shmiras Shabbas and he brings Rav Moshe who mattired it. Devolping should not be done.
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