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April 7, 2013 8:11 pm at 8:11 pm #608885neeneeMember
I heard that a well-known yeshiva does not hire divorced teachers, what do think about this?
April 7, 2013 8:15 pm at 8:15 pm #943144popa_bar_abbaParticipantI highly doubt this is a policy. More likely, a divorcee was not hired for other reasons, and decided this was the reason.
April 7, 2013 8:18 pm at 8:18 pm #943145neeneeMemberdream on or should I say…wake up.
April 7, 2013 8:24 pm at 8:24 pm #943146Torah613TorahParticipantNot true. In fact I know at least one case where divorcees are preferred for certain positions.
April 7, 2013 8:25 pm at 8:25 pm #943147RooskieMemberPerhaps you are referring to a girls school not hiring divorced men.
April 7, 2013 8:33 pm at 8:33 pm #943148neeneeMemberwhat positions are better for divorcee’s? and what is wrong with a girls school hiring a divorced man?
April 7, 2013 8:36 pm at 8:36 pm #943149☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantEven if this is true, we would need to hear the school’s side (and I doubt it’s true).
April 7, 2013 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm #943150mewhoParticipanti think the marital status of the person is not as important as the persons menchlechkite. married, single , divorced…being a mench comes first.
April 7, 2013 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #943151Torah613TorahParticipantDivorced women are generally excellent employees who can spend more time with students then others.
Single men are not hired in girl’s schools in general, for obvious reasons.
April 7, 2013 10:28 pm at 10:28 pm #943152Veltz MeshugenerMemberT613T, Divorced women are not generally any kind of employee. Like the rest of the population, some are better employees, and some are worse.
I could rather easily imagine that a lot of the externalities of getting divorced in a homogeneous, close knit community could result in finding it harder to get a job, but it doesn’t mean that something nefarious is afoot.
April 7, 2013 10:32 pm at 10:32 pm #943153☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDivorced women are generally excellent employees who can spend more time with students then others.
I would sooner hear that argument made for childless employees than divorced ones.
April 7, 2013 10:35 pm at 10:35 pm #943154yitzchokmParticipantfe. fi. fo. fum.
I smell TROLL!!
neenee,
strike two
April 7, 2013 11:28 pm at 11:28 pm #943155Torah613TorahParticipantI would like to take back my earlier comment. It was thoughtless and I should not have written it.
April 7, 2013 11:42 pm at 11:42 pm #943156WolfishMusingsParticipantI heard that a well-known yeshiva does not hire divorced teachers, what do think about this?
I think a school should only hire teachers who have been married for an even number of months. Then, as the next month approaches (by which they’ll have been married for an odd number of months), the teacher should be told to come back in a month.
Teaches who are divorced should only be hired if they have been divorced for an odd number of months. This way, the married teachers and the divorced teachers won’t come into contact with each other.
The Wolf
April 8, 2013 12:24 am at 12:24 am #943157neeneeMemberto yitzchokim: what do you mean?
April 8, 2013 12:29 am at 12:29 am #943158neeneeMemberwhat’s a troll? I think that any divorcee should be able to get the job that they are qualified for. I am pained when our world becomes so selfish and cruel. And does that mean that if a Rebee gets divorced he should be fired from working in a girls school? C’mon.
April 8, 2013 12:49 am at 12:49 am #943159yitzchokmParticipantneenee:
a troll, in this sense is a poster who imagines scenarios, posts them as true, in order to get others riled up for no reason.
April 8, 2013 12:49 am at 12:49 am #943160RooskieMemberI’ve heard a case of a rebbe in a beis yaakov getting dismissed after his divorce. It is a fair concern by the school and I don’t think you can blame them.
April 8, 2013 12:53 am at 12:53 am #943161yitzchokmParticipantIf a Rebbe of a boys school gets divorced, then, no, he shouldn’t be able to teach.
Definitely girls.
April 8, 2013 12:55 am at 12:55 am #943162neeneeMemberfair concern?
April 8, 2013 1:07 am at 1:07 am #943163RooskieMemberSingle men (whether never married or divorced) tend to be on the “lookout” for a marital partner. A girls school is an inappropriate lookout.
April 8, 2013 4:12 am at 4:12 am #943164yehudayonaParticipantRooskie, who are the single men on the lookout for, students or teachers? If the former, I would hope that the age difference between a thirty-plus divorced man and student who is 18 or younger would trigger the “ick factor.” If the latter, why single out girls’ schools? There are female teachers in most boys’ elementary schools.
April 8, 2013 1:57 pm at 1:57 pm #943165rebdonielMemberThere may be legal protections for a divorcee getting fired due to that. Not that I think having men teaching single girls in their late teens is a good idea, anyways.
April 8, 2013 2:28 pm at 2:28 pm #943166sw33tMemberI understand not having opposite gender non married teachers. (divorced man teaching girls, divorced woman teaching boys)
What’s the problem with a divorced man teaching boys/ divorced woman teaching girls?
April 8, 2013 2:53 pm at 2:53 pm #943167🐵 ⌨ GamanitParticipantsw33t- it’s not a problem at all. More than half the teachers in my elementary school were divorcees. They stayed for many years, as they didn’t need the same salary a woman with five children needs. Teaching is not a very well paying job.
April 9, 2013 12:28 am at 12:28 am #943168rebdonielMemberA divorced man and a married man are both capable of the same things. It is equally immoral for any kind of teacher to do something “Es past nisht” with a talmidah.
I don’t see the nafka mina between a married or divorced rebbe.
April 9, 2013 12:46 am at 12:46 am #943169farrockgrandmaParticipantI imagine there are some administrators that feel that a divorcee is a greater temptation to her male associates. I imagine that their imaginations are way out of control.
April 9, 2013 1:24 am at 1:24 am #943170squeakParticipant“I don’t see the nafka mina between a married or divorced rebbe.”
Well that just means you need a hint. Bread. Basket.
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