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Why besmudge Noach when we can praise him? Do not dismiss the view as Rebbi Yachanan says so. Maybe, we are repeatig it by saying, aso raisi tzadik ‘bador hazeh’, I see him as a tzadik in this generation, which seems to be unnecessary. Also the Midrash on the end of Parashas Bereishis says, venoach matza chen be’einei Hashem, and Noach found favor in Hashem’s eyes, Hu matza va’Hashem lo matza, he found but Hashem did not. Maybe the meaning might be that if Noach would have stayed in his piety in the generation of Avraham, he would not have counted for anything but most propably Noach would have be influenced by Avraham and his generation to change.
You got it all backwards. Noach was a tzadik. Naoch was a tazdik.
I am glad to see that someone corrected the typo in the headline, but now my first comment makes me look stupid. I prefer to do that myself.
Reb E: Why do so many of your postings have the following small print below:
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This reply was modified 52 minutes ago by Reb Eliezer.Either way the תורה was קובע that all you need is בימים ההם. That is sufficient. As is באשר הוא שם in the opposite way. If anyone is zoche to gadlus in our generation it is true gadlus . Why that is so requires a הסבר but not now.
There i also the idea that he was such a big Tzadik that even in a time that nobody else was good he was good
Punishment takes a year.. Some say it is a normal timeline for punishments – makos mitzraim, Yiov..
Note that COVID took a year – from March to March, when vaccines became widely available in developed countries, and after that the remaining punishment is mostly self-inflicted.
A question from a kid – was it really a punishment? People in the flood generation died older (and bored?) than people lived normal lives after the flood.
Of course he was. From his hentalach to his feesalach. It’s a b’eirushe sing.
Some meforshim say Noach erred when he threw Yona from the boat.
AAQ
it became a curse after the flood that Hashem changed the amount of years of a person’s life to become the maximum of 120 years like Moshe Rabbeinu our most humble leader in klal yisroel. Before the mabul they used to live until 800 or even 950 etc….
Sam, that seems to be a misreading of the Pasuk. Those 120 mentioned in the end of Bereishis are referring to the time from the warning until the flood. That’s how the Targum and Rashi explain it. And you see that it didn’t go down to 120 until Moshe Rabbeinu (who interestingly is hinted to in that Pasuk).
Until the flood the upper limit was a thousand years, after the flood it was halved, and after the Haflaga it was halved again and continued to go down — at least for Avraham Avinu’s family.
So Adam still lived long until 930 years
And Noach lived until either 900 or 950 I forgot exactly plus other who lives in the 800s or 900s before going down in years and not only meshushelach like you wroteThe Lubavitcher rebbe (chelek 25) has a whole sicha that although Noah was a taddik you shouldn’t lessen from him because be didn’tdaven for the people of his generation unlike moshe .he explains that this is because be didn’t have the avos to daven in the zechus of.
Tuna, chazal blame noach for not davening for his generation, hence the mabul is called “mei noach.” If he was an oness, because he lacked zchus avos (which is arguable – he could have davened bzchua adam harishon) then he would not have been criticized.
Interesting to note that the beis yosef says that noach was an “ish tzadim” and a “tamim” “in his generations” – he says that the nain chait of the dor hamabul was znus. We see from yosef hatzadik that one is called a tzadik if he triumphs over the YH for znus – noach was an ish tzadik in that dor. In the dor haflaga, the main chait was in lack of emunah – the opposite is a tamim, like tamim tehiyeh. “His generations” refers to those two doros which he lived in.
The beis yosef uses this to explain why Hashem said that He saw noach as an ish tzadik lifanai – what happen to tamim? According to this, it hadn’t happened yet.
Reb Eliezer
Your absolutely right
And this is why a person needs to separate themselves from bad surroundings and attach themselves to Hashem alone with Dveikus and Hisbodedus to Hashem direct mitzvos from the Torah and no one for a person to attach themselves to better than Hashem himself directly the king of kings ruler of the entire world.
Yes even better than attaching yourself to your wife or friends or Rav there’s nothing better than having a direct relationship with Hashem himself directly waiting to help YOU out in anything a person cries out for wholeheartedly as we say daily in Ashrei. Karov Hashem lchol korav….. Which means Hashem is close to all call out to all who call out wholeheartedly.
May we all call out wholeheartedly directly to Hashem very soon for the Geula shleima bkarov and the shofar of Mashiach already
With doing serious Teshuva and Achdus together ASAP bkarov
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