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DY -“You should keep reading it until you understand it.”
I did understand it – the first time!
Why don’t you understand my post?
“The cop did what he was supposed to do, whether it was PC or Not!”
Health, pardon my ignorance, but what was he supposed to do? My understanding of police responsibility is that cops should our streets safe. Garner wasn’t a threat to anyone. Sure he was breaking the law, but in America we have a legal process where everyone is entitled to a trial. And last
I checked the penalty for selling loose cigarettes is not death.
Matan1 -“Health, pardon my ignorance, but what was he supposed to do? My understanding of police responsibility is that cops should our streets safe. Garner wasn’t a threat to anyone. Sure he was breaking the law,”
You don’t understand American law. Once s/o breaks a law, even if the offense just warrants a ticket, the cop has to issue it. I’m not a lawyer, just in medicine, so I don’t know what level of offense selling loosies is, but let’s assume it’s the lowest level. The cop wants to give him a ticket, but Garner resists. His resisting makes it now a felony. The cop has to arrest him; he can’t just let him go home! And what happened after that is history.
Exactly. Garner deserved a ticket. Nothing more than that.
Had he resisted arrest, Garner would be facing a potential felony. But fortunately, we have a tape of what occurred. It is clear from the film that Garner did not physically resist officers from arresting him. He was clearly upset at the situation, but did not in any way resist arrest.
Eric Garner did not resist arrest. Watch the video. He in no way physically opposed his arrest.
Garner was killed by the police officer on duty that night. No question about it.
We must protest his death and the outcome of the grand jury.
Matan1 “Exactly. Garner deserved a ticket. Nothing more than that.
Had he resisted arrest, Garner would be facing a potential felony. But fortunately, we have a tape of what occurred. It is clear from the film that Garner did not physically resist officers from arresting him. He was clearly upset at the situation, but did not in any way resist arrest.
Eric Garner did not resist arrest. Watch the video. He in no way physically opposed his arrest.”
Because of your outlandish claims, I just watched the video a few times. He resisted arrest physically & verbally.
“We must protest his death and the outcome of the grand jury.”
We must protest the mobs’ attitude & their violence and all the liberals’ falsehoods!
The mobs are wrong. But Health is even more wrong.
Resisting arrest? Really? Garner said “don’t touch me” a few times. That’s it. How is that resisting arrest?
The reason they were arresting him was because he was a serial offender if it was a one time thing they probably would not be arresting him.
Matan1 -“Resisting arrest? Really? Garner said “don’t touch me” a few times. That’s it. How is that resisting arrest?”
Before you & others (the mob) start commenting and protesting on this – they should know Police procedure. Any cop is allowed to restrain s/o to question or to arrest him. When the cop said “Give me your hands”, he refused & pushed the cop away. This is called “resisting arrest”!
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Garner did not physically resist arrest. I watched the video several times. He only starts to struggle when the cop puts his arm around his neck.
You can call me a liberal if that makes you feel better, but it does not change the facts. Eric Garner was killed by the police officer who put him in a chokehold.
Matan1-“Garner did not physically resist arrest. I watched the video several times. He only starts to struggle when the cop puts his arm around his neck.
You can call me a liberal if that makes you feel better, but it does not change the facts. Eric Garner was killed by the police officer who put him in a chokehold.”
Unfortunately you are the one who’s changing the facts. I just watched the video a few times. The fact is he denied any wrongdoing from the git-go. The cop wanted to restrain him, but he pushed the cop. What he should have done was gently stuck out his hands to be restrained. If he would have done that he’d still be alive & the mob would just focus on Missouri & elsewhere!
He did deny wrongdoing, but I don’t see why that’s relevant. In America, everyone is entitled to a trial and is presumed innocent until proven otherwise.
Let’s say he did resist arrest and pushed the cop (which the video clearly shows to be false). How does that give the cop the right to put him in a dangerous chokehold? It’s not like Garner was a threat. There were multiple officers around him, so I doubt that he could have hurt anyone.
Matan1 -“He did deny wrongdoing, but I don’t see why that’s relevant. In America, everyone is entitled to a trial and is presumed innocent until proven otherwise.”
He entitled to a trial after he’s arrested!
“Let’s say he did resist arrest and pushed the cop (which the video clearly shows to be false). How does that give the cop the right to put him in a dangerous chokehold? It’s not like Garner was a threat. There were multiple officers around him, so I doubt that he could have hurt anyone.”
When s/o has to get arrested or even just has to be questioned, the cop is allowed to restrain him, ie. put him in handcuffs. He knew better, Not to resist!
“Restrain” and “kill” are two very different things.
RebYidd23 -“Restrain” and “kill” are two very different things.”
Are you implying the cop wanted to kill him? Even the mob doesn’t claim that!
Actions matter more than intentions.
Cops can restrain suspects. They CAN’T put a suspect’s life at risk.
Garner was not resisting arrest, nor was he a threat to anyone. He was murdered by the cop, plain and simple.
I wan’t to pose a question. If the victim was Jewish, would we even be having this conversation?
I imagine that we’d all be running (rightfully so) to put the cop behind bars.
Just food for thought.
Matan, Health does not have the same outlook as you. He says it is “very good” (direct quote) that Eric Garner was killed. He went on to says that if Officers Ramos or Liu had ever stolen anything ever it is “very good” that they were shot in the head.
RebYidd23 -“Actions matter more than intentions.”
OK, but how come you & the mob know more than the Grand Jury?
How come you’re grouping me with the mob and yourself with the Grand Jury?
RebYidd23 -“How come you’re grouping me with the mob and yourself with the Grand Jury?”
Simply because of your posts here – like this one:
“Police are not supposed to kill people.”
“yourself with the Grand Jury?”
Because we hold the same –Not Guilty!
Matan1 -“Cops can restrain suspects. They CAN’T put a suspect’s life at risk.”
He put his own life in risk by resisting the Police!
“Garner was not resisting arrest, nor was he a threat to anyone.”
He was resisting arrest. Learn the legal definition before commenting. And you don’t have to be threating anyone before a cop can arrest you!
“He was murdered by the cop, plain and simple.”
Not the least bit of Truth, plain and simple!
“I wan’t to pose a question. If the victim was Jewish, would we even be having this conversation?
I imagine that we’d all be running (rightfully so) to put the cop behind bars. Just food for thought.”
If it was a Yid like me,(dunno about you,) I’d stick my hands out & Not resist the PD.
Just because I believe that police are not supposed to kill people doesn’t mean I agree with the mob. King George believed the sky was blue. I agree with that. But that doesn’t mean my beliefs are all the same as his.
You and the Grand Jury hold Not Guilty!, but not for the same reasons.
Is there any point in this thread continuing?
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