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December 31, 2010 5:30 pm at 5:30 pm #593865msseekerMember
8 botched environmental forecasts
Rick Moran (American Thinker)
Fox News has an all-star grouping of environmental forecasts that turned out to be so off base that the only question remains is why are the people who made them are still taken seriously?
A couple of examples:
1. Within a few years “children just aren’t going to know what snow is.” Snowfall will be “a very rare and exciting event.” Dr. David Viner, senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, interviewed by the UK Independent, March 20, 2000.
Um…no. Kids in England today know very well what snow is. They’ve had to shovel so much of it off the walk this winter they probably want to find Dr. Viner and throttle him.
2. “[By] 1995, the greenhouse effect would be desolating the heartlands of North America and Eurasia with horrific drought, causing crop failures and food riots…[By 1996] The Platte River of Nebraska would be dry, while a continent-wide black blizzard of prairie topsoil will stop traffic on interstates, strip paint from houses and shut down computers.” Michael Oppenheimer, published in “Dead Heat,” St. Martin’s Press, 1990.
Read what this mealy mouthed little snit has to say to defend himself:
Oppenheimer told FoxNews.com that he was trying to illustrate one possible outcome of failing to curb emissions, not making a specific prediction. He added that the gist of his story had in fact come true, even if the events had not occurred in the U.S.
Um, no again. Where are the food riots? The “black blizzards?” that will shut down computers? Or strip paint from houses? Or stop traffic on highways?
Wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong again.
Here’s one from our old friend Paul Ehrlich, who famously predicted in the 1970’s that both China and India would suffer famines by 1985 where hundreds of millions of people would die. Both China and India are now self sufficient in food production.
Here, Ehrlich points his mini-brain in the direction of England:
7. “By the year 2000 the United Kingdom will be simply a small group of impoverished islands, inhabited by some 70 million hungry people … If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.”
How about that one, Paul?
“When you predict the future, you get things wrong,” Ehrlich admitted, but “how wrong is another question. I would have lost if I had had taken the bet. However, if you look closely at England, what can I tell you? They’re having all kinds of problems, just like everybody else.”
Incredible. How wrong are you? Fantastically, stupendously,egregiously, idiotically wrong, that’s how much. “All kinds of problems” is light years distant from “England will not exist in the year 2000.” It’s not close, even by cosmic standards. You can look as closely as you’d like at England and glean absolutely nothing that would make your prediction anything more than the drooling ranting of a clown.
Check out the piece for more jaw droppers.
January 1, 2011 11:41 pm at 11:41 pm #723820fine-meshigaMembermods please change the title to 2011
January 2, 2011 6:02 am at 6:02 am #723821metrodriverMemberIf we had computers (and human projectors/ forecasters)115 Years ago, they would have predicted that by the Year l980, we would be overwhelmed with the horse droppings, that we would need special squads of Pooper Scoopers. And that there will be an acute shortage of wicks for our Kerosene lamps by the year 1935. Luckily, there were no environmentalist extremists, or they would have predicted that by the year 1985, there will be no more forests left for all the wood heating stoves in the USA.
January 2, 2011 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm #723822msseekerMemberOne scientist actually predicted that by 19?? We’ll be crouded out of planet earth because there won’t be enough pasture in the cities and towns for everyone’s horses.
January 3, 2011 4:40 am at 4:40 am #723824charliehallParticipant“both China and India would suffer famines by 1985”
Had Deng Xiaoping not overthrown the Gang of Four, there almost certainly would eventually have been mass starvation in China, as there had been under Mao. Mao so much wanted to create a Paradise for the Peasants that he let tens of millions of them die. In the chaos of the Cultural Revolution, a prediction of additional mass starvation in China was quite realistic.
India, however, was a completely different story. There had been a famine in Bihar state in India in the 1960s; government intervention (not laissez-faire!) got food to those who needed it. This repeated in Maharashtra in 1972 and in West Bengal in 1980. The parallel with Yosef HaTzadik is notable — rapid and intelligent governmental action can stop famines. The contrast between the success of the interventionist — almost socialist — Indian government with the repeated horrific famines that the laissez-faire British colonial authorities allowed to take place is stiking. (And it wasn’t just in India — laissez-faire policies were responsible for one eighth of the population of then-British-ruled Ireland starving to death during the 1840s.)
January 3, 2011 6:09 pm at 6:09 pm #723825msseekerMemberI’m no history expert, but you know what they say, “Maybe it’s true, but if he said it, I don’t believe him.” Please check out the shtuyot spewed by Paul “Ehrlich” over the years. According to him, we shouldn’t have been here at all; the world was supposed to be long gone by now. Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.
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