Netilas Yadayim Kli

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    My brother says he thinks he heard somewhere that the kli for netilas yadayim should be one whose top is wider than its base. I pointed out to him that the large colored plastic keilim with handles that most people use are symmetrical. He then replied that perhaps it was that the top had to be at least as wide, if not wider than, the base of the kli. (Incidentally, I have also seen very popular ceramic keilim in Judaica stores whose tops are smaller than their bases. I do realize, however, that this is not necessarily a reliable indicator of what the halacha actually is.)

    Neither my husband nor I have ever heard of such a thing before. My husband thinks maybe it’s a chassidishe minhag. Since my brother is very vague about where he heard this, we have no idea what the source is. I looked through siman daled of Orach Chayim and couldn’t find anything. Anybody know if this is halacha, minhag, or bubbe mayseh?

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    Sam2
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    There may be an issue if the Kli has a lip. I am not familiar with anything necessitating what you heard, though, for whatever that’s worth.

    #1027832

    Don’t know, What would the reason be? heebie jeebie stuff?

    #1027833
    oomis
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    The only thing I thought was an issue is if the kli has an indentation (such as a 1 quart glass measuring cup)at the rim.

    BTW, you may be unaware that “heebie jeebie” is a pejorative expression meaning “Hebrew/Jew-boy,” and when one uses that term (typically to imply something gives him “the creeps” or even might be occult in nature), it is an extremely Anti-Semitic remark. Most people do not know this, but I learned about it when researching the origins of commoly-used expressions. “Gee” is also another expression Jews should not use, because it comes from the name of the guy from 2014 years ago, in whose name we are caused a lot of grief.

    #1027834

    How about a pitcher, which has a projecting spout? Is that an issue?

    #1027835

    Wow ,I didn’t know that I always used it for kabalistic, supernatural, and such

    #1027836
    👑RebYidd23
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    Oomis, saying “gee” is something unavoidable, unless you want your dogs to go in only one direction.

    #1027837
    Sam2
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    oomis: I think you are mistaken. According to etymonline (an online etymological dictionary) the phrase was coined by cartoonist Billy DeBeck in 1923. There is no record of it meaning anything to do with Jews.

    Other potential sources are a pejorative, but it’s not anti-semitic. It was against people who studied both the Old and New Testaments, and is a combination of “Hebrew” and “Jesus”.

    #1027838
    Malbim
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    Just consult your LOR.

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