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  • #951745
    sarahbarah2
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    s.e

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    #951747
    twisted
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    opening poster, if you are ashenazi, try this trick. Daven with sfardim where the shatz doesn’t stop chattering. Learn to concentrate in that environment, and then go back to your regular minyan. Or, when you get to a specific part of the tefilah that pulls your emotion, close your eyes and say it with a silent mental scream. When you master this, apply that closeness to other parts of the tefilah one by one. Warning: you may end up with the same “problem” as sb2.

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    please continue saras conversation here

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/long-davening?view=all

    #951748
    Vogue
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    bump

    #951749
    Torah613Torah
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    My strategy is to daven as fast as possible. If I daven slower, I may start off with kavana, but space out at some point. By davening quickly, I’m forced to keep track of where I am, and I don’t get bored.

    Davening doesn’t have to be from a siddur. Asking Hashem for help on a test, or thanking Hashem when you did well or are happy about something, is also davening.

    #951750
    mercury
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    google “davening on hot coals” by Rabbi Yehoshua Karsh. dont know him or ever heard of him. I came across this by accident somehow years ago and it probably the best thing I ever read in my entire life. ive read it numerous times as it never ceases to amaze me. He is so down to earth and relates to people who have little interest in opening sefarim or listening to mussar shmoozin on this topic. It is a bit long maybe somwhere between 10 and 15 pages or so, so best to print it out and read it that way rather then online as I noticed its easier to concentrate on paper then a computer screen. and then just take some points that you like and put it onto a post it note and stick into your siddur.

    #951751
    Vogue
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    I tend to wake up half conscious on a typical morning and don’t regain full consciousness until the middle of the day, so I almost never say brachos with kavana.

    #951752
    E-O-M
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    There are many books on ???? ????? but I’ve only picked up pieces here and there

    I find that learning the gimmatrias and depth of the text helps as well as making little notes of whatever in you siddur. Good luck

    #951753
    Vogue
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    Thank you, do you know where I can get these seforim from?

    #951754
    yytz
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    I’ve heard good things about My Prayer by R’ Nissan Mindel, which has recently been reprinted, but I haven’t read it myself.

    Here’s one quote from a chassidic sefer about kavanah:

    “You must really force yourself to concentrate on your prayers. I disagree with the people who say one should not try to force it. It is very hard to pray, and people are usually not able to pray more than a portion of the prayers. But even if you sometimes cannot pray at all, the effort you put into forcing yourself to pray is also very precious to God, even if you don’t actually succeed in praying as you should. These efforts are accounted as sacrifices, and this is the meaning of the verse: `But for Your sake we are killed all the day; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter’ (Psalms 44:23). This refers to the effort we put into our prayers even if we find it impossible to pray. This is a general principle in serving God. Even if we do not manage to serve Him in a way that is fitting, the effort we put in is still very precious, and in the worlds above it is accounted as a sacrifice” (Sichos HaRan 12).

    #951755
    E-O-M
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    I know that pathway to prayer has been very useful to many- most Judaica stores carry them

    I recently acquired a Sefer written of the teachings of my great great grandfather who was not very well known (I think) and I read this little tidbit:

    One should have in mind when saying ???? ?????, ???? ????, ????? ???? that Abraham is 5 letters, Isaac is 4 letters and Jacob is 4 letters adding up to 13 which correspond to the 13 attributes of mercy (??? ????)

    The 3 ???? plus the vav in one of them are also a total of 13 letters and 13+13 is 26- which is hashems name of mercy

    lema’an shemo be ahava can be read ?-???? since ahava is gimmatria 13 then 2 (?) times 13 (????) is also 26

    There are lots more and I’m sure the above has a deep meaning way beyond my understanding but it’s nice nonetheless.

    #951756
    E-O-M
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    Also interesting to note that Abraham’s original name had only four letters so the added ? is what makes it 13

    Which isnt the case with the matriarchs who’s names also equal a total of 13 letters- ???, ????, ???, ???

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