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I need to use a nebulizer periodically for a child. What should I do for Shabbos?
Any solutions?Use a (mechanical – not electronic) Shabbos clock to set it to go on at specific times, and fill the cup before the machine goes on. If absolutely necessary, you can also change the times it will go on and off on Shabbos (so long as you don’t make it go on or off right then), as that is Grama, which is a Derabanan and is allowed in the case of a Choleh.
This is what we were told when we had to use one for one of our children – but you should confirm this with your LOR yourself.
Good luck, and a Refu’a Sheleima to whomever needs the nebulizer (my kids outgrew the need as they got older, B”H).
an Israeli Yid
We used to set a shabbos clock on the nebulizer with 4 on/off switches so we could use it every 6 hours.
Alternatively, gramachip dot com has a product called the k-luft-nebulizer.
We had that problem once- we attached the machine to a shabbos clock and had it go on for about 20 min for the 2-3 times a day that we needed it to give it. And then davened that the child would cooperate and not be napping or whatever when the machine went on.
Use an inhaler with an Aerochamber instead. It takes 30 seconds per puff and studies show it to be at least as effective as a nebulizer, if not more so. And no chillul Shabbos necessary.
SH: For which illness? My children were on a nebulizer for bronchitis/bronchiolitis/ RSV.
Shabbos clock did not work for us. A nebulizer is designed to work for 20min. max. After burning out a few nebulizers we purchased a Shabbos nebulizer from
Gramachip Technologies.
They have Haskamos from many Rabbanim (If I remember correctly) Rabbi Shlomo Miller from Toronto and Rabbi Moshe Heinemann from the Star-K and others.
You can use it whenever it is needed on even Shabbos.iacisrmma, thanks for the info. It is for congestion we are using albuterol…we ordered a k-luft nebulizer
We were also told to use it when one of the children had croup. The pediatrician said that just using plain water was more direct than the shower method.
My children with asthma use inhalers.
SH: For which illness? My children were on a nebulizer for bronchitis/bronchiolitis/ RSV.
Any of the above plus asthma. Really anything you would use a nebulizer for. There are parents who insist that the nebulizer works more effectively on their children than an inhaler with an Aerochamber, but most doctors say that the studies show otherwise. In any case, it’s worth a try because it’s so much easier to use the Aerochamber, especially on young kids who don’t have a hard time sitting still for as long as it takes for the nebulizer to work.
I have had no problems ,leaving a nebulizer on all shabbos. If it gets turned off, it can be turned on with a spoon. If it gets unplugged, it can be turned off plugged in and then turned on with a spoon.
(Isn’t there an opinion that there’s no such thing as a shinui if there
will be no effect in the result (such as handwriting of lesser quality from
being written with the non-dominant hand)?Hmmm. A guide to halachos about hospitals on Shabbos that I saw this past
week didn’t seem to go that way at all, so I guess we don’t pasken that way?Dear Random,
Maybe I should have included this, but I assumed we are talking about someone who is seriously ill. (Oxygen around 90. High fever.) If the nebulizer would be ineffective, the next step would be to go to the hospital. I got advice from a frum doctor. In that instance, he also said that if I could not get it on with a spoon, I should turn it on regular, instead of calling hatzolah or going to the ER.
I also shold add, that when using a shabbos clock, have it stay on for at least an hour at a time. In case it has to be redone, you will have enough time to do it twice.
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