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January 6, 2018 6:48 pm at 6:48 pm #1443522slominerParticipant
Simcha is a name given to either a boy or a girl. How many other such Jewish names are there?
January 6, 2018 8:11 pm at 8:11 pm #1443758Geordie613ParticipantZissel
YonaJanuary 6, 2018 8:12 pm at 8:12 pm #1443743Ex-CTLawyerParticipantShai
January 6, 2018 9:44 pm at 9:44 pm #1443775RifParticipantEli (short for Elisheva)
I know a guy whose name is Michoel (like the malach) but he is called Michal like the woman’s name.
Gabriel/Gabrielle
Joel/JoelleJanuary 6, 2018 9:46 pm at 9:46 pm #1443769JosephParticipantCan you name a boy after a bubbe or name a girl after a zeida?
January 6, 2018 9:46 pm at 9:46 pm #1443779David111ParticipantPerhaps wait until you know if the babies gonna be a boy or girl and then decide on the name. No rush! 😀
January 7, 2018 7:59 am at 7:59 am #1443867yehudayonaParticipantI’m named after my grandmother.
January 7, 2018 7:59 am at 7:59 am #1443875WinnieThePoohParticipantInterestingly, Simcha is used by Ashkenazim for boys and Sefardim for girls.
Are you counting modern Israeli names as “Jewish names”? If so, there are many- the trend among secular Israelis is to use these “neutral” names, often taken from nature- like Tal.
Joseph, I suspect that names like Tzviya (or Tzivya) and Yosefa originally came about in that manner.January 7, 2018 7:59 am at 7:59 am #1443876jakobParticipant“Can you name a boy after a bubbe or name a girl after a zeida?”
sure just change it from male grandpa chaim to female lashon granddaughter of Chaya & yes she is considered named after him
January 7, 2018 7:59 am at 7:59 am #1443878american_yerushalmiParticipantJoseph: regarding naming a boy after a bubbe, I heard of such a case a few years ago, about which Rav Chaim Kanievsky was consulted. He said not to do so, adding “ein me’arvin Simcha be’Simcha.”
January 7, 2018 8:05 am at 8:05 am #1443869GadolhadorahParticipantGordie: …….naming a boy “Zissel” i(aka “sweeties) is borderline child abuse…perhaps consider “schlissel” which lends itself to more masculine connotations
January 7, 2018 8:05 am at 8:05 am #1443884Shopping613 🌠ParticipantYalli, I’ve heard as a nickname for Ayala and Yackov. The latter is less common but I’ve heard of it a few times.
January 7, 2018 8:05 am at 8:05 am #1443885MalachOfCholentParticipantMy mother is named after her grandfather, but its a girls name that has the same meaning as her grandfather’s name. my grandmother asked R’ Moshe Feinstein and he told her how to do it.
January 7, 2018 8:05 am at 8:05 am #1443886MalachOfCholentParticipantI know a guy named Michel, i used to get so confused when someone would call out his name as to whether they are calling him or a girl….
January 7, 2018 9:00 am at 9:00 am #1443922hmlParticipantSlominer, I would have liked to have named one of my daughters for my aunt Simcha, with whom I was very close. But it’s also my husband’s name, so that put paid to that. As for naming a boy after a Bubbe, in my family we don’t amend the name (Yehuda for Yehudis).
Lucky are the parents who don’t have anyone to name for!
January 7, 2018 9:11 am at 9:11 am #1443935JosephParticipant“Lucky are the parents who don’t have anyone to name for!”
There are always elter-elter zeidas and bubbes.
January 7, 2018 9:11 am at 9:11 am #1443916MalachOfCholentParticipantGadolhadorah: Zissel is a very common name for boys.
January 7, 2018 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm #1443943Geordie613ParticipantGadolhadorah,
Rav’ Simcha Zissel Ziv, the ‘Alter fun Kelm’ was one of the gedolei hamussar. Rav Simcha Zissel Broide was the Chevroner Rosh Yeshiva. It is a very widely used boys name in the litvishe, yeshivishe world.
Having said that, my father-in-law’s grandmother was called Sara Zissel, so we have many girl Zissel’s in the family.
Rav Yosef Zvi Dunner, Rav of the Adass in London, had 5 boys and no one to name after his mother, Shulamis. He named he next child Shloime after his mother. The next child, was (and still is) a girl and now choshuve Rebbetzin, called Shulamis.January 7, 2018 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm #1443999RifParticipantZissel is the nickname for Zusha/Zisha. Girls are usually called Zissy.
A woman was called Elchanit after her grandfather Elchanan. At age 45, she went to see Rebbetzin Kanievsky who told her that her husband is opposed to certain names (Shira is one of them). She also said that her husband is opposed to giving boys names to girls and vice versa. The woman’s husband went to consult with Rav Kanievsky who told him to change his wife’s name. Today she is called Chana.
January 7, 2018 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm #1444045Little FroggieParticipantZeesKite!!!
January 7, 2018 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm #1444051american_yerushalmiParticipantRegarding made up Israeli names: Rav Chaim Kanievssky’s opinion on this is pretty well known. He considers names like Opher, Almog, Raz. Maya, etc., not to be names at all. And people so named he considers “nameless.” He has told several ba’alei teshuva who have asked him about their names, to “give themselves a Jewish name.”
January 7, 2018 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm #1444055MilhouseParticipantHendel.
January 7, 2018 4:40 pm at 4:40 pm #1444099lesschumrasParticipantModern names are no less Jewish than made up yiddish names
January 7, 2018 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #1444178kuchlefelParticipantthe chassam sofer had a daughter named simcha.
January 7, 2018 8:17 pm at 8:17 pm #1444229GadolhadorahParticipantJust because some Rav was named Zissel, it doesn’t make it any more appropriate “name” than some modern Hebrew names that R’ Kanievsky thought weren’t sufficiently “Jewish”. What is “Jewish” about adopting some Yiddish name derived from Old German etc. If we want to be machmir on naming children with only “Jewish” names than one should only use a name that appears in the Torah or the Neviim.
January 7, 2018 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm #1444324LightbriteParticipantAre there any Jewish names that are just two letters?
Do you know what I mean?
I’ve known individuals whose parents either named them with only two letters, or purposely gave them a first name and middle name so that they can just refer to their child by the acronym of their names.
For example, real names or nicknames:
DJ
JD
BJ
RJInteresting how they all have *J*s
….fyi, I don’t mean like acronyms for Rabbonim, such as Rambam, etc.
January 7, 2018 11:12 pm at 11:12 pm #1444363JosephParticipantRav Chaim isn’t the only one who holds that a boy shouldn’t be named after a woman and that a girl shouldn’t be named after a man.
January 8, 2018 3:20 am at 3:20 am #1444371LightbriteParticipantSo no Daniella, Mikaela, or Davida?
January 8, 2018 3:22 am at 3:22 am #1444399MalachOfCholentParticipantDV is also a name, without a “J”
January 8, 2018 6:21 am at 6:21 am #1444426WinnieThePoohParticipantReal names that can written as 2 letters:
ST
ZC (see above discussion)
ID
ABJanuary 8, 2018 2:26 pm at 2:26 pm #1444676iacisrmmaParticipantGad – גד
Dan or Don – דןJanuary 8, 2018 3:06 pm at 3:06 pm #1444708JosephParticipantYou believe anyone can take any random Hebrew word and use it for a baby’s name?
January 11, 2018 9:50 am at 9:50 am #1447539yehudayonaParticipantI forget where I saw it, but someone pointed out that while the Israelites in Mitzrayim supposedly didn’t change their names, we never see that they’re named after the Avos or Yaakov’s children. They mostly had names we don’t use. Have you ever met a Shlumiel (as opposed to a shlemiel?) And of course, Moshe was named by Pharaoh’s daughter, so it’s presumably an Egyptian name even though the passuk explains it with a Hebrew word.
January 11, 2018 11:24 am at 11:24 am #1447557Uncle BenParticipantKatanHadorah: “If we want to be machmir on naming children with only “Jewish” names than one should only use a name that appears in the Torah or the Neviim.”
Actually, I believe that is the shita of Rav Chaim Shlita, a real Gadol Hador. Though I believe most Rabonim, Rebbes don’t seem to agree with him.January 11, 2018 11:27 am at 11:27 am #1447563GadolhadorahParticipantStop trying to create Halacha where none exists…..naming children goes by the minhagim of the family…there is NO strict limits as all the above postings have noted that many well known rabbonim and askanim have names derived from other languages or are variations of goiyeshe names or modern ivrit. Unless we restrict names to those of men and women mentioned in torah and neveeim,, there is no significance to a “Zissel” than to Gal or Raffi
January 11, 2018 1:02 pm at 1:02 pm #1447574GadolhadorahParticipantUncle Benny…we agree….I might even consider Binyamin for my new pet parakeet
January 14, 2018 6:01 am at 6:01 am #1448876👑RebYidd23ParticipantI don’t believe in giving animals the same kinds of names you would name a child. Not because of human names being sacred, just because you get to give animals names that would embarrass a child.
January 14, 2018 9:45 am at 9:45 am #1448938Uncle BenParticipantRebYidd: Katanhaborer is not being serious, as usual she erroneously thinks my name is Binyamin. So instead of sitting on her rocking chair and knitting afghans for her einiklach she fantasizes about naming her imaginary parakeet in my supposed honor!
January 14, 2018 10:12 am at 10:12 am #1449009JosephParticipantUB: It’s a he.
Insider info?
January 14, 2018 11:54 am at 11:54 am #1449090JosephParticipant“Insider info?”
An apikorus can be a he or she. But someone with such a grubbe outlandish spit in your Jewish face attitude is surely a he.
January 14, 2018 11:54 am at 11:54 am #1449086Uncle BenParticipantCould have fooled me! So what’s with the lashon nekaiva of dor”ah” ? Stam ameratzus?
January 14, 2018 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #1449271GadolhadorahParticipantBinyamin….please don’t be so funny….I almost fell out of my rocking chair. You also misspelled “ameratzus”. On a more serious note, if you profile the names of many chazal over the centuries, you will discover that there are names that have as much nexus to torah as Gali, Ayit, Suki or any of the other dozen or so most popular names today in EY. If you are more comfortable with 12 variations on the avos and imahos, each ending in “LE” , that go for it. Mi kamocha yirsroel (or is that mi kamacha Yisroeleh?)
January 14, 2018 7:43 pm at 7:43 pm #1449254👑RebYidd23ParticipantUncle Ben, anyone can buy a parakeet, so if Gadolhadorah claims to have one or plan to have one, I don’t doubt it.
January 14, 2018 8:55 pm at 8:55 pm #1449317Uncle BenParticipantI spelled ameratzus phonetically as it is colloquially pronounced.
In any case my name is not and never has been Binyamin!
Come on it’s cold out there get busy knitting those afghans, your einiklach are cold!January 15, 2018 2:38 am at 2:38 am #1449320GadolhadorahParticipantmore focused on the SPF rating on their sunblock than my knitting afghans…BTW, are yidden allowed to use an afghan if it is shatnes?
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