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When you daven for someone (not for a refuah Shlema) do you have them with their mother’s name or father’s?
Sources please! 🙂
Thanks
Father,as they are called up to the Torah.
It’s a minhag, no source needed, feel free to change it. God can figure it out either way.
Mother’s name. Many Yehi Ratzons have that even for yourself.
when you are davening for someone for any yeshua, it’s the mothers name. when someone is nifter, it goes to the fathers name.
Mother’s name. I once heard it’s a Gemarah somewhere. Attention all Talmud Technicians. Can you back this?
My rebbe R Shragie Neuberger said the reason for saying the mothers name is that when the chips are down (a person is sick) you don’t take any chances (for sure its the son of the mother b/c by the father its only a rov)
Where are the Techies? Oh. They’re busy learning!
Hey he’s my rebbi too! (wasn’t in his shiur but used to go to the popcorn chabura)
Actually, I think the reason is because that is the name of the Guf.
ZeesKite, the Gemara (Shabbos 66b) is talking about a Lachash. I don’t know if that is a proof to our discussion but it could be a Zecher Ladavar.
Yitay,
I loved going to his popcorn chaburas
Me too!
yitay, do you remember someone who killed a mountain lion?
Lol no but I definitely remember a lot of coffee addicts.
Ner had the best cafeteria,
Where else serves calzones
Absolutely. And the Wednesday lunch, spaghetti with cheese and sauce and mushrooms and onions. Probably has a name, it was delicious.
Please don’t remind me I miss that sooooo much
Lol
And mama leahs when I didn’t like the lunch or supper
Yup. That place has since closed down.
What?!?!?!
Chaval al d’avdin
Back to the issue. I seem to be the only one recommending using the father’s name.
1. It doesn’t really matter.
2. We use the mother’s name for a sick person. Since we are not talking here about a tefilah for a refuah shleimah, we have two precedents for using the father’s name for tefilos. A, the brachah given at a bris. B, the Ribono Shel Olam tefilah on Shalosh Regalim when taking out the Torah.
3. I stand by my opinion.
4. See #1
Sorry busy, after I posted that last post I felt bad for hijacking it
For specific physical needs of a live person, the mother’s name is used. In other cases, the father’s name is used.
Sorry, don’t have the sources now.
old man –
Maybe you use a different siddur but unless I’m dreaming in the prayer on yom tov my siddur says to say your mother’s name.
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