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August 30, 2011 11:55 pm at 11:55 pm #599018sarahbarah2Member
When Moshe recieved the Torah and was told what would happen i’m the future did the information he was told include the fact that Bmei Yisroel would create the egel hazahav and did Moshe know he would break the first pair of Luchot?
August 31, 2011 2:49 am at 2:49 am #811161deiyezoogerMemberWhere does it say that Moshe was told the future.
August 31, 2011 3:34 am at 3:34 am #811162golden momMemberit did say that he was told what would happen in the future and how beni yisroel will sin…but if he was told that he would drop the luchos then it would seem he did it cuz he had to but he did it out of shock so probably Hashem only showed moshe the future what He wanted him to see
August 31, 2011 7:14 am at 7:14 am #811163HaLeiViParticipantHe was told the future before he was Niftar.
August 31, 2011 2:05 pm at 2:05 pm #811164gavra_at_workParticipantWhen Moshe recieved the Torah and was told what would happen i’m the future did the information he was told include the fact that Bmei Yisroel would create the egel hazahav and did Moshe know he would break the first pair of Luchot?
Obviously not. Moshe Rabbainu did not receive the Torah in the form that we have on Har Sinai (Kofer!).
September 20, 2011 9:16 pm at 9:16 pm #811165YW Moderator-42ModeratorMoshe was told by Hashem to go down because B’nei Yisrael had built an egel. He didn’t “beleive” Hashem until he actually saw it for himself so as not to be mekabel lashon hara. Once he saw it with his own eyes he broke the luchos
September 20, 2011 9:24 pm at 9:24 pm #811166CR 1MemberI heard i believe from R’ Wallerstein that the luchos were like the kiddushin (i.e. ring) and if Mmoshe Rabbenu didnt break the luchos we would have so to speak been married with Hashem and committed adultery by sinning with the egel so it was a favor Moshe Rabenu did for us.
September 20, 2011 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #811167popa_bar_abbaParticipantI heard i believe from R’ Wallerstein that the luchos were like the kiddushin (i.e. ring) and if Mmoshe Rabbenu didnt break the luchos we would have so to speak been married with Hashem and committed adultery by sinning with the egel so it was a favor Moshe Rabenu did for us.
Well, wasn’t Moshe the shliach kabbala? So isn’t the kiddushin chal when he gets it?
September 20, 2011 9:39 pm at 9:39 pm #811168YW Moderator-80Membermaybe he was the shliach holacha.
so it wouldnt be chal until they accepted it
September 20, 2011 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm #811169ToiParticipantmaybe he was both, what?!
September 20, 2011 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm #811170popa_bar_abbaParticipantEither way, what is the point of breaking it?
If the kiddushin was not chal yet, they could just refuse it.
September 20, 2011 9:45 pm at 9:45 pm #811171chanieMemberOn the last day of ??? ?????’s life, he was shown the future of Klal Yisroel. Every Godol, Tzaddik, the leader’s of every generation, every occurrence until ???? ?????. Look in Rashi in ???? ???? ????? ??? ?? ???? ? ?? ???? ??????.
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