More Hypocrisy from the Democrats

What’s wrong with dead people voting as long as they know to vote Democrat? It is a long tradition going back many generations.

And why would a mail carrier in a Republican area throw our perfectly good ballots when they have the option of delivering them to a Democratic vote harvester who least knows the correct way to mark the ballot.

@Akuperma You said what’s wrong with a dead person voting?? Is that fair? That’s what their all about just scam everything and if a republican would dare say it they would investigate like there is no tomorrow

@1
What’s the contradiction?
The Democrat’s position is voting should be universally accessible. So mail in votes should be available for people that cannot make it to polling stations, and voting without ID should be allowed for people that don’t have a state ID (other means of verification like SS card would still be used)

Both mail in votes and voting without ID are the norm in many first world countries (the UK for example). None of which seem to have a problem with fraudulent voting.

Out of a study of millions of ballots, there were found 9 (nine!) fraudulent votes.

Out side of the mayor of Podunk race, what does one gain for changing a couple of votes?

A massive campaign to enable or prevent people from voting is much more of an advantage.

I have a video of nadler saying how voting by mail is fraud he said it in 2004.

Post office is perfectly fine. Just fake news because Trump mentioned something g about post office. Post office is always slow

Why did you remove the link? That’s what the dems do.

This is a Democratic site. Didn’t you know that?

Proud to be a liar like Trump about the Post Office? I don’t see the slowness of the Post Office yet.

A few facts about vote by mail:

• Americans have used vote by mail/absentee voting since the Civil War

• In 2016, 25% of voters voted by mail

• Vote by mail does not favor one party over another

• Colorado uses universal vote by mail and is considered to have the most secure elections in the country.

• Mail-in ballots have bar codes to prevent duplicates, and every ballot requires a signature that is checked in a database to prevent fraud.

• To receive a ballot, you must be a registered voter.

• Mail-in voting creates a paper trail that can then be audited after the election.

Vote by mail is secure. Trump is lying when he says it isn’t. Even the RNC is mass mailing their supporters absentee ballot request forms.

I think each of the 170,000 + people who died from COVID-19 should be able to vote against Trump.

Jacob lev- better they should vote for cuomo for killing many of them?

Dear SYag,

There are two options here.

1 The states can pay for priority mail.
2 The feds can hire more workers for the usps.

Something feels familiar about this debate.

(In other words, this is not unique to Trump.)

Mail voting would work if:

1. The Boards of Elections and the Post Office were fanatic about keeping address records up to date.
2. Ballots were sent to voters as certified mail, signature required – guaranteeing voters received their ballots
3. They actually checked that the ballot was from the voter either by requiring them to show ID at the post office or by checking a signature on the ballot against the voter registry, which very few election boards do.
4. A ban on vote harvesting

But it won’t happen and unless Biden wins by a tremendous landslide, the election will be tainted

@1 @Health Both of you and so many people on here seem convinced it’ll be subject to mass electoral fraud, all because Trump said so.

Mail-in voting has had bi-partisan support for some time now, and works in just about every other first world country, No, it is not ripe for abuse. It works fine in Colorado where verification checks are in place to prevent voter fraud. Ballot papers are also kept for 2 years evidence does arise of voter fraud and a recount necessary.

And yes, there may be the odd case of someone passing the verification checks and vote on behalf of a deceased relative. But this isn’t a practical way for any party to garner additional, fraudulent votes on a large scale. Nor would anybody in their right mind think it worth the risk, with the upside being their favored party receives just one additional vote, but the downside being if caught, can be fined $10,000 and a sentence of up to 5 years in jail.

Colorado for example has had just 9 instances of voter fraud since adopting mail-in voting in 2013.

The upside of mail-in voting is it’ll give fairer access to millions to their constitutional right to vote. It’ll also likely make vote counting easier, as counting will not all need to be done the evening of the election.

So please stop peddling this nonsense. Trump is only peddling it to preemptively de-legitimizing the election if he loses.

1, What about signature matching? What about if he died after mailing the ballot?

Oregonian here! I love voting at the kitchen table, no stamps necessary. Around 7 years ago an elections worker in the PDX metro area was busted for filling in incomplete ballots and marking them for republican candidates. I also recall someone busted for ballot harvesting, I don’t know if it is still illegal here, I’m guessing it went by the wayside when we choose vote by mail 20 years ago. There used to be a site you could use to track election fraud by state. Perhaps someone can try a google and see if they can find it.

Somebody has to answer to why it is worth forging individual ballots. It would be more efficient to manipulate a voting machine. Or to invalidate hundreds of ballots at the official counting.

Dear Health,

“It might be easier, but it’s even easier to catch the wrongdoing!”

How so?

1 -“Health? Most people aren’t honest”

True, but I said this:
“There probably will be a Honest Guy around!”

Dear Health,

One person can go into the machine under the pretense of voting, and disable it. Or if he is very capable, disable one voting option.
Voting places, like just about everywhere else in this country are not as secure as you think.

Yes. Why does it matter?

Dear Health,

It takes less than a minute to partially disable a voting machine.

There is a youtube video on how to hack the machine in seven minutes.

How much time is allowed in the booth?

A couple of points:
1. The states that have mail in ballots have had years to get.
the kinks out
2. They’ve also cleaned up their voter registrations,
eliminating bad addresses, deaths etc
3. Attempts to clean up registrations in other states have
been met by Democratic claims of voter suppression
( see Stacy Abrams in Georgia )
4. Among the provisions stuffed by Pelosi into her stimulus
package were 2 laws stripping away security provisions
from mail in ballots which would make it impossible to
prove who actually filled out the ballot
5. Absentee ballots work fine and there is plenty of time
fir them to be requested
6. The difference between mailin and absentee ballots?
Absentee ballots are requested and mailed to a specific
address. Mailin are sent in bulk, to all registrations on
file, regardless if they intend to vote in person of at all