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  • January 29, 2014 7:38 pm at 7:38 pm #612003
    popa_bar_abba
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    We hate them. But we only get mad at them when it’s food, because people die. But if people aren’t gonna die, then they can do it straight away.

    yoma 83a (still part of today because two dots is in first couple lines)

    January 29, 2014 8:03 pm at 8:03 pm #1000877
    MDG
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    PBA congrats with catching up. Awesome.

    BTW, next week we start Sukkah (so please don’t call me any names).

    January 29, 2014 9:18 pm at 9:18 pm #1000878
    👑RebYidd23
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    Don’t you know it’s human nature to do what one has been told not to do, you zebra toad?

    January 29, 2014 9:52 pm at 9:52 pm #1000879
    popa_bar_abba
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    Thank you MDG. See the kimchis thread for details

    January 29, 2014 11:01 pm at 11:01 pm #1000880
    HaLeiVi
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    At first I wondered why there is no other possibility between Rebbi Yochanan and a Rasha. But after seeing what his Rishus was I realized that he was not Ivan the Terrible.

    January 30, 2014 2:02 am at 2:02 am #1000881
    MDG
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    “See the kimchis thread for details “

    I have been reading that thread; that’s how I know.

    BTW, I also had the same question. Considering that in Bayit Shaini most kohanim didn’t live out the year, having 7 sons serve as K”G sounds like the all died. The story in Yoma makes it sound like a good thing. Before reading it inside, I would have applied the mishna in Sotah, that a Isha Prusha (pretentiously tsniut) women destroys the world, to explain it.

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    rebyidd23,

    Thanks for the cute name. But I was referring to PBA calling people “big fat jerks” (in another thread) for not telling him that Yoma followed Pesachim in the Daf cycle.

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/i-hate-all-you-all-you-big-fat-jerks#post-499155

    January 30, 2014 4:32 pm at 4:32 pm #1000883
    👑RebYidd23
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    I know. I was just hoping one of you would know what it means.

    January 30, 2014 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #1000884
    MDG
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    One pregnant lady decided to not eat on Yom Kippur and had a great son, Rabbi Yohanan. The other pregnant lady ate on Yom Kippur and had a son who hoarded fruit to sell at high prices.

    What is the parity and what is the logic?

    A Lamdan from Jerusalem (visiting here) pointed out the Maharsha that says that in both cases it was about Taavah. Rabbi Yohanan’s mother controlled her Taavah and had a son who was in control of his Taavot. Whereas the other mother did not control her Taavah and her son had uncontrolled greed.

    January 30, 2014 5:05 pm at 5:05 pm #1000885
    popa_bar_abba
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    Oh, I assumed he hoarded fruit so that he could sell the unhoarded fruit at high prices. Because if you dump the hoarded fruit on the market, then the price just falls anyway.

    In any event, maybe they’re talking about fruit that spoils if you don’t eat it. Because if it doesn’t spoil, then hoarding it is good for equalizing supply.

    January 30, 2014 5:08 pm at 5:08 pm #1000886
    Sam2
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    MDG: Look at Rashi there. It’s about the unborn son controlling his Ta’avos.

    January 30, 2014 5:26 pm at 5:26 pm #1000887
    MDG
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    “I assumed he hoarded fruit so that he could sell the unhoarded fruit at high prices.”

    Yep, his ta’ava was greed.

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    “MDG: Look at Rashi there. It’s about the unborn son controlling his Ta’avos. “

    I took that figuratively; i.e. a baby creates Ta’avot in a mother, but they become her cravings to take care of.

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