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What happened to the mods?
On one hand, posts are taking forever to be posted. There is often a 17-18 hour wait period with no posts (this includes overnight, but still).
At the end of last week, there were DAYS with no posts! (Thursday 2:30pm till Sunday morning).I thought that maybe the mods started being extremely meticulous in studying and censoring the posts.
However, the opposite is true!
Without getting personal, there have been extremely inflammatory posts with bombastic personal attacks, including bizui talmidei chachamim (including gedolim from the chassidish AND litvish worlds) that would have never been allowed previously in the CR.
Has Elon Musk bought out the Yeshiva World News!?
Additionally, outside links are suddenly being included in posts, including YouTube videos which are being used as a cheap means to attack other posters.
To top it all off, several hours ago, a Vietnamese spammer has joined the ranks of the CR posters, take a look at this profile: @milavy
This is his most recent post in random threads:
“Thành Trung Mobile là một hệ thống sửa chữa thiết bị điện tử uy tín, được thành lập từ năm 2006 tại TP HCM. Trung tâm này chuyên cung cấp dịch vụ sửa chữa cho đa dạng các thiết bị từ điện thoại, máy tính bảng, đến đồng hồ thông minh. Với hơn 16 năm kinh nghiệm, Thành Trung Mobile tự hào về đội ngũ kỹ thuật viên chuyên nghiệp và tận tâm, cùng với việc sử dụng linh kiện chính hãng và trang thiết bị hiện đại để đảm bảo chất lượng dịch vụ. Khách hàng có thể tìm thấy dịch vụ thay màn hình, pin, sửa chữa phần cứng, và nhiều tiện ích khác tại Thành Trung Mobile.”We want our mods back!
For those wondering what the message in Vietnamese says, here is the translation:
Thanh Trung Mobile is a reputable electronic device repair system, established in 2006 in Ho Chi Minh City. This center specializes in providing repair services for a variety of devices from phones, tablets, to smart watches. With over 16 years of experience, Thanh Trung Mobile is proud of its team of professional and dedicated technicians, along with the use of genuine components and modern equipment to ensure service quality. Customers can find screen replacement, battery replacement, hardware repair, and many other utilities at Thanh Trung Mobile.
Perhaps he has, for some reason, seen a market to supply thousands of pagers and walkie-talkies!
Are you talking about my video links to two Lubavitche rabbis speeches? Are you saying that showing what they say is an attack on you? Or the other link to the video that show Chabad behavior that was posted briefly and then taken down? How can you say they are “cheap means to attack other posters” when you agree with what is said and done in the videos? If you don’t think there’s anything wrong with the speeches and behavior of these Lubavitche how are these videos an attack against you? If you do think the speeches and behavior is wrong why don’t you say so? I’ve asked you numerous times if you agree to what they say and do.
These links are not attacks, these links are simply show the ideology of Chabad by showing what Lubavitche say and do between each other. If you percieve these links showing what Lubavitche really believe in to be an attacks on Lubavitche posters then you are embarrassed by the content because, despite being brainwashed with this ideology, you know that it’s wrong.
Stop being hypocritical. You ignore my questions regarding what Lubavitche believe. I post these videos to show what Lubavitche believe. If you disagree with the content of the videos then it should be embarrassing to you. If you don’t disagree with the content you cannot take it as a personal attack.
Menachem,
Yeah I was getting annoyed too at the speed of approvals but I realize nothing and nobody is perfect (myself included) and just accept it
Philosopher: Perhaps we can have a moratorium for the rest of chodesh Elul on what some might consider as Chabad-bashing, even those “questions” you believe are intellectually sound.
Gadolhadorah, what questions am i asking that you claim i deem to be intellectually sound? I am simply asking if what is said and shown in the videos are believed by Lubavitche in general and by the Lubavitche posters here specifically. These are not intellectual questions. They are very simple questions. What does Chodesh Elul have to do with stopping to ask whether the Lubavitche posters, and the Lubavitche in general, believe that their rebbe runs the world, believe that they can pray to their rebbe, that he’s everywhere, that he’s physically alive, and that he never makes mistakes? What is intellectual about asking if it is ok to give an aliyeh to a dead rabbi, to write a letter 30 year after his death that hes not available for the next few days because hes not feeling well, to pray to their rebbe’s chair and other such behavior? These are not intellectual questions, they are simple questions from Lubavitche about their beliefs and behavior.
Why pinkt in choidesh elul should we not ask these questions?
If habad offer a moratorium for hodesh elul whereby they cease any mention of second coming, any mention of yehi, any mention of their rebbi being mashiach , Yes there should be a moratorium on habad bashing .
Agreed ?GH and philosopher (and Yankel)
This discussion should be posted on a different thread if you want not here!
Menachem stated a valid point about how the CR has been run recently and you’re calling out posters
I guess it was too much to ask for a 10 day moratorium on bashing other yidden for their beliefs and hashkafah.
Lay off the mods, they are doing a hard job. And you don’t want to this be your last approved post either!
Also, some mod decisions may be delayed while the mods are consulting Alter Rebbe to clarify unclear passages in Tanya.
Coffee addict, if there wouldn’t be references by Shmei about him being “attacked” I wouldn’t have spoken about my questions and video links to chabad rabbis. Could be I took it too personally and it wasn’t directed at me… I don’t know. I felt his post was partially directed at me and I therefore responded.
Gadolhadorah, how are my questions I’m asking, which is if they believe in the ideology the Lubavitche rabbis speak about in their videos videos ” bashing other Yidden for their beliefs and hashkafa”?
I was personally attacked in the other thread by the person who now claims in this thread that he’s getting attacked… that’s so hypocritical to complain about being personally attacked while calling me all kinds of names including “apikoros”. Now kindly all of you telling me to stop asking questions, I’m allowed to ask questions any time, any choidesh, period. If you want the “personal attacks” to stop tell the person who opened this thread to stop attacking me on the other thread.
Did I go and complain about me being attacked for being a woman who dares to respond in the other thread? Did i complain about being called an apikoras and other personal attacks on me? No, I didn’t because I understand that this is the internet with all kinds of “interesting” people on this forum saying all kinds of things in a heated things in a heated debate…
It’s totally hypocrisy to complain about something you yourself are doing to others…
Philosopher,
All I said was start another thread about your feelings Menachem made a thread about how he feels the mods weren’t doing their jobs properly you could start a thread about how Menachem is being a hypocrite
That’s all
Coffee addict, I hear you, but I not starting a new thread about “my feelings”. The fact is that Shmei was upset at the mods for letting through “personal attacks” and he shouldn’t be the one complaining about it when he does that to others, that’s all I’m saying.
“If posts aren’t being censored, why does it take so long for posts to go up?”
I guess it takes a while to censor your posts complaining about being censored?
“I do think there has unfortunately been a recent lack of oversight here”
Perhaps you need to drill down a bit and understand the combination of real-world resource constraints and editorial discretion that are operative in ANY niche social media site such as YWN. Generally speaking, the Mods generally provide considerable leeway in what is allowed to go through subject to the stated CR guidelines. I’m sure there are some that would prefer that all photos of women be photo-shopped out of news stories and that any expression of disagreement with a chashuve rav (even with the caveat of “with all due respect…”) result in immediate banishment from the CR. And indeed, there ares several frum websites that adhere to that type of editorial protocol if that is your preference. The growth and commercial success of YWN would suggest that there is a substantial market for the level of “oversight” provide here.
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