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whatever you hold is the latest time for Mincha (for ex. 9 min after shkiyah, bdievd), does this time mean when you are still permitted to begin S’E or when you have to complete S’E?
and please dont ask me to pose this to YLEIHQTGAPITPAOHIWYHTSSAWPATYAH
thanks
SA 233 MB SK 14 says you should finish before Shkia (as the MB says you should be Machmir for the shittos of Shkiyka being at sunset).
Hu Hadin here as well, you should finish before the Zman.
Rabbi Reisman had a shiur regarding this a few years back. IIRQ he said there are basically two shitos, Shitas Hageonim and Rabbeinu Tam. Both Shittas hold that the time is divided into three parts, vadai yom, safek yom safek lialah, vadai lialah (tzeis).
Rabbi Reisman then went on to discuss the timing in America according to Reb Moshe. He said that Reb Moshe held tzeis for shitas hageonim is 35 minutes after shkiah and 50 minutes after for Rabeinu Tam. According to this, vadai yom is until approximately 8 minutes before tzeis therefore mincha would be until 27 and 42 minutes after shkiah respetively, then it would be bdi’eved until shkiah. If one were to not hold y Reb Moshe’s calculation and use the standard 42 and 72 minutes then IIRQ the vadai yom is until 18 minutes before tzeis according to Rabeinu Tam (I don’t remeber the timing for shitas Hageonim).
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“YLEIHQTGAPITPAOHIWYHTSSAWPATYAH” is not qualified to answer such a shayla. It must be sent to the Poskei Hador Shlita, but only those well versed in the movement of the sun, moon and other celestial bodies, who have advanced degrees in astronomy and of course are makpid to daven mincha before shkiah.
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for when it is appropriate do as you do with all your shailos
“for when it is appropriate do as you do with all your shailos”
Ask them to the Rabbonei Coffee room?
I suggested “personal Halachic advisor” in another thread.
many CR denizens are perfectly happy with the archaic “LOR”
Moderator-80 suggested “YLEIHQTGAPITPAOHIWYHTSSAWPATYAH”
what you suggested is contrary to Yeshiva World policy.
” NOTE: One must ALWAYS ask a Rev a Shaila, and NEVER Pasken from the forum!”
a reverend?
What an eye for detail!
Seeems that my Shlimazel’ness at the keyboard includes “click & paste” I am quite sure that I changed noithing in that quote.
Why rub it in?
BTW Shlemiel would have bee more appropriate
Better obviously to finish before the zman. But there are those that are lenient [Rav Ovadia, Aruch Hashulchan] that it is enough to start before the zman.
In a case of need, one can daven Mincha until 58.5 minutes after shkia, according to Rabbeinu Tam and those who hold like him. [According to them, this would be allowed l’chatchila.]
“In a case of need, one can daven Mincha until 58.5 minutes after shkia, according to Rabbeinu Tam and those who hold like him. [According to them, this would be allowed l’chatchila.]”
Only in a case of need, or even l’chatchila? You said both…
According to some, davening after shkia, even until 58.5 minutes after shkia, is l’chatchila.
According to others, it is not l’chatchila.
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