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Have you submitted it to them yet or are you waiting for this to first come down?
Bomb – Wow, what a conicidence! And if you believe that one -I have a bridge to sell you. I guess you gave them an idea how to make money and they figured out a way not to include you. If anyone who should be boycotted it’s Mispacha, not YWN! Totally disgusting!
mods- why are you giving him such a hard time. isnt it only mentchlichkite to remove his thread that he started? I dont get why its a big deal for you to just take it down. I would love for it to stay here and hear the rest of the story but I cannot force someone to do something they are not comfy doing.
“such a hard time”?
he made a request
the editor reviewed the request, made an editorial decision in the best interests of YWN, and denied it
end of story
Why would it hurt you to take it down? what are the editors gaining. can you explain why they are giving him such a hard time about it. he has enough pain dont make this hard for him too
speaking as a spectator
i dont know what this “hard time” is that you keep referring to
any specifics youll have to ask the editor
i just feel bad for him thats it. I guess he can stick up for himself too
Mods,
Any answer to my question on the previous page as to whether YWN asserts simply the right to use or exclusive rights?
This is an important question to answer and impacts how I may interact with the boards in the future.
The Wolf
Wolf: I don’t think you have a problem. You never clicked on these terms, and browse-wrap contracts are really not enforced.
As far as a right of action against YW if the won’t take down a submission, I don’t think there could be any action, since the owner of the copyright posted it, so the publication was done by the owner.
bomb- I am with you on this one. Not sure why they are making such a big deal about it but just chalk it up as agmas nefesh and thats it.
Wolf, the answer you get may not be so straight…the ToS were changed recently, i’m not sure when, but it was definitely after my request.
I can’t do anything about the past. I would, however, like to know what the policy is going forward. It’s not an unreasonable request — and the official silence that I am receiving about it is deafening.
The Wolf
I can’t do anything about the past. I would, however, like to know what the policy is going forward.
*All rules are subject to change without notice.
*All rules are subject to change without notice.
Within reason.
Or, if the mods announce that, as of three days ago (when the rules changed without notice), there was a $50 per post fee, are you going to pay up?
But even so, asking what the *current* policy is not unreasonable and the fact that neither the official moderators or the owner of the site has even said “hey, we’ll look into it and get back to you” (let alone come back with an actual answer) is disturbing to say the least.
I don’t think my question is unreasonable. If we’re going to contribute to this site, we ought to know what our rights are concerning what we post. If asking a simple question such as this makes me a troublemaker, then fine, I’ll be a troublemaker. But I’d still like to know the answer.
The Wolf
the moderators moderate the posts in the YWN coffee room. other than editorial decisions regarding what shall be posted they have no involvement in any way with official or unofficial policy of any area of YWN.
and even their decisions regarding what is or isnt posted is subject to the approval of the editorial staff.
please leave the moderators out of the discussion of your frustration.
thank you
please leave the moderators out of the discussion of your frustration.
Fair enough. However, I did ask above if a moderator could at least bring this to the attention of TPTB. None of the moderators even said anything along the lines of “we’ll pass your question along” or “we passed it along but the boss ignored us” or anything else to indicate that they even saw it.
Were you *required* to pass my request along? No, you weren’t. But I didn’t think it deserved to be ignored either.
The Wolf
Bomb – Wow, what a conicidence! And if you believe that one -I have a bridge to sell you. I guess you gave them an idea how to make money and they figured out a way not to include you. If anyone who should be boycotted it’s Mispacha, not YWN! Totally disgusting!
Total conjecture on your part, and therefore unfair.
apparently you didnt fully understand my post.
to reiterate, please leave the moderators out of your discussion.
please do not reply to this post.
thank you
ok fine so editors please remove this thread. Sorry mod for coming down hard on you I just thought you would have more power than we do around here
please do not reply to this post.
Fine. I won’t. 🙂
The Wolf
great, thanks, i knew i could count on you
great, thanks, i knew i could count on you
Hey, if you can’t count on me to utterly mess things up beyond all hope of salvage or redemption, who can you count on?
The Wolf
I am really sorry mod about attacking you before. Please accept my apologies. And open that thread about you I liked it. its good to blush once in a while and get compliments.
i never felt you were attacking me.
you were standing up for and speaking in behalf of a “comrade” that you felt had been wronged.
commendable
DY – I’m not going to pasken whether you have to Dan businesses L’caf Zecus, but if you’re doing it for Mispacha mag, why not for YWN? Maybe they have a perfectly good reason for not removing the whole topic.
DY – I’m not going to pasken whether you have to Dan businesses L’caf Zecus, but if you’re doing it for Mispacha mag, why not for YWN? Maybe they have a perfectly good reason for not removing the whole topic.
You’re right, but whereas if I conjecture as to why YWN won’t remove it, I run the risk of the readers disagreeing, and another round of condemnations, all I said regarding Mishpacha is that they might have thought of the topic before this piece was submitted to them. Nobody can know otherwise to disagree.
bombmaniac – For my own curiosity -how do you know?
bombmaniac – “Because they told me.”
Ohhh! “Now I see”, said the blindman.
bomb – I’ll explain it. I don’t believe their story and I don’t not believe it. It could be the Emes and it could not!
Bomb – That’s your prejorative and mine is to say maybe/maybe not.
okay
so he meant prerogative
you knew that
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