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In another thread a poster equated a Kos L’Kidush and a Megila case in referrence to Hidur Mitzva. My ???? ?????? was that there is difference between a ??? used for the performance of the Mitzva and a ??? used for storing and transporting the ??? ?????. But I found a ?? ??????
The Gemara, Shabbat 133b, cites a Beraita that derives from the verse (Shemot 15:2) “zeh keli v’anveihu,” this is my G-d and I will glorify him, that one should glorify G-d through the performance of mitzvot. Therefore, one should have a nice sukkah, a nice lulav, a nice shofar, nice tzitzit and a nice sefer Torah. Ra’avad (cited in Chidushei Anshei Shem, Berachot 38a, no. 2) suggests that hiddur mitzvah is a biblical concept. Ritva, Sukkah 11b s.v. V’Ee, writes that hiddur mitzvah is a rabbinic concept. The Beraita includes on its list of items nice covers for a sefer Torah. This implies that the cases and covers used to store an item used for a mitzvah are also subject to hiddur mitzvah. Accordingly, having a nice lulav or etrog case would constitute a fulfillment of hiddur mitzvah. However, one can argue that one cannot bring a proof from the covers of a sefer Torah. Rambam, Hilchot Sefer Torah 10:10, writes that there is a special mitzvah to beautify a sefer Torah. As such, sefer Torah may be the exception to the rule. Nevertheless, the Mishna, Sukkah 45a, states that in the times of the Beit HaMikdash, the aravot for the simchat beit hasho’eiva were placed in gold vases prior to their use. This seems to indicate that there is some element of hiddur mitzvah in having a nice case for a lulav or etrog
Excerpted from http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/716315/Rabbi_Josh_Flug/Hiddur_Mitzvah .
Nice proof but there may be a flaw. This apparently was in the Bais Hamikdash. Why didnt he bring proof from the silver bowls used by the rich to bring ??????? ??
I found the following in a piece on using disposables for Kidush.
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I dont remember who discusses this….
In the context of the nedavos brought for the mishkan, the torah mentions zahav, kesef and nechoshes. Clearly items listed in descending order of value. After these three, the torah mentions the avnei shoham. Certainly these stones were more valuable than at least nechoshes (possibly the kesef and even zahav – diamonds are girls best friend, after all), yet are mentioned last. I dont remember who says this…the reason the avnei shoham are mentioned last is because they yidden collected these as they fell from the sky every day with the man. Since they didnt spend any of their own money on it, the torah is not machshiv it.
Still reviewing hilchos chanuksh, but I remember from last year seeing one of the nosei keilim discuss the quesiton if it is more mehudar to use a beautiful but not so expensive menorah, or an expensive, but not so nice looking one. I believe the answer given was the hiddur was determined by the money spent, not necessarily the appearance.
To answer your question. I would say that using an expensive kos to make kiddush would qualify as hiddur. Of course, I have to get “chapter and verse”, until then take it as you want.
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Try finding that quote. Did it say spend money or effort?
???? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (??? ? ??? ?? ??? ??) ??”?, ???? ??? ??? ??? ???? ????? ?????. ??? ????? ???? ?????? ?????? ??-???? ??????. ???? ?? ??? ?? ??? ????, ??? ?? ??. ??? ??? ?? ????? ??? ???, ???? ?? ???? ???????, ??”?
A friend told me that he saw ???”? ? ????? ??????? ????”? of Golders Green make Kidush on a bottle because he did not want use a disposable.
He agreed with Rav Neuwirth????”? on one point and not on the other.
The sefer Piskei Tshuvois quotes the Minchas Yitzchack and others that the reason you cant use dissposeble cups for kiddush is not because its not hiddur mitzvah, its because its not a ??? and the proof to that is the fact it dosent need tvilah.
Regardless of the Halachic angle of the discussion at hand, there is a correlation between “Cases” and ????? pronounced the “Lithuanian” way (Kay-ses). Especially, when speaking of the Megilla, we learn ????? ???????. Additionally. To drink the Four Kay-ses on Purim is a Mitzvah.
p.s.: I’m afraid this post has been written in the spirit of ?? ??? ???.
How about a silver menora?
How about a silver menora?
Sure. When can I pick it up? 🙂
The Wolf
How about a silver menora?
What about it ?
Sure. When can I pick it up? 🙂
Any night of chanuka. Just walk down the street and see which houses have them. You can even start a fire as a diversion.
Don’t italic smilies look funny.
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