Mazel Tov to Aly Raisman

Amain!, also for doing her floor routine to hava nagila.

Choppy: I don’t know that they are entirely treif. I can certainly agree that (even if you could claim she doesn’t know better and that this is great for her) that publicizing a woman’s accomplishments while performing in a leotard is probably not so good. She does deserve a Yasher Koach for what she did about those who died in Munich though.

So are Lashon Horah, Rechilus and Motzei Shem Ra. Period.

That’s ok though. Doesn’t seem to matter much to some of the gedollim that post here.

I also watched the olympics and found this to be very inspiring and classy. I suppose that will open me up to being called all sorts of names by certain people here. That’s ok too.

After 120 I’ll be comfortable saying that while I owned a television I didn’t make it my mission to judge, mock and speak badly about others on a daily basis.

Even putting aside the tarfus… what good is accomplished by making a memorial for terror victims at the Olympics? If it is so good, why don’t you give a drasha on Shabbos about it? And why, davka, those terror victims? And what good is doing it at the Olympics?

Aly Raisman is not Israeli, Shes American

Itche: None. And from what I was told the only competitors they have left don’t have a chance to win any either.

What did she do that was a Kiddush Hashem? I get all my news from YWN. 🙂

Zahavasdad,

No not American, Jewish American and apparently proud of it!!!!

Choppy,

Chill the heck out. If every Frei Jew identified so strongly with the Jewish People the world would be a better place.

Sam2,

Having a proud Jew up there winning Gold to one of the most recognizably Jewish songs in the world is just about the same thing to me!

She didn’t memorialize the Munich athletes, all she said was that if there had been a moment of silence, she would have participated.

Wallflower: She also said how much more meaningful this was for her because it was on the 40th anniversary and the comment about the moment of silence was a clear shot at the IOC who refused to have one.

mewho: Which religion led you to utter that first word in your paragraph?

Choppy- you remind me of my friend who moved to the UWS and went otd. Read that post Bc it applies to you. My friend was so self righteous. He could do no wrong and would put people who was less “frumer” than him down. He eventually went otd Bc he realized how fake he was. Well he also had family issues.

Ahh finally the wisdom of popa bar Abba. Everyone was wondering where you were. If your going to make comments like these then please go back into hiding.

PBA: I don’t know about that. There’s nothing wrong with respecting someone for being best in the world at something. They can be an inspiration. HKBH gave them Kochos and they used them to the utmost. I respect the world’s greatest athletes the same way I respect the world’s best artist or musician, etc. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. (Respect doesn’t mean wishing to emulate; many of these great athletes earn respect with their accomplishments but lose personal respect because of their other actions.)

I respect them because they worked so hard for something. It’s amazing to work at something every day and accomplish your goals ( mainly being the best in the world at something). Before I got married I was training for a half marathon. I ran, I worked out I ate right.. I got married & pregnant bH and did not accomplish that goal, but if I had I would have been so proud of myself. Clearly in my case what I did accomplish was greater but that is not my point. The Olympics may not fit into a “torahdik” lifestyle, but who in the Olympics takes on a fully torahdik lifestyle anyway. ally raisman called attention the Jews in a positive way. Honestly most goyim when they think of Jews think of chassidim with long payos and and nickers. ( which is fine) BUT maybe if they think they can relate to us a little better it will lead to less anti-semitism. Who knows.

You can have your negative attitude and pretend that I said we should all be more like them, or you can actually read what I wrote and try and see that I am right. A frum Jew is not going to compete or maybe even watch. Good! Fine! But for a Jew who doesn’t keep the mitzvos BUT is able to do something that to the outside world is bringing positive attention to us as a nation, I can’t complain about that.

Yes Shraga absolutely.

Will my punishment be worse since I watched the Olympics on various channels due to having cable?

Once again, another member jumps up to judge someone else.

You know… maybe you boys should have watched the Olympics after all… judges play a big factor.

Yes, clearly I’m the problem here.

Not the members who claim to be religious yet utterly disregard a good portion of the Torah, specifically the part that teaches us how to interact with each other.

But yeah… I’m, sure somehow my watching TV in the privacy of my own home is worse than that.

Thank you for suggesting my exit. I’ll pass though. Trolls and psychopathic cultists aside, I do find this to be an enlightening website most of the time.

Shraga: Maybe, maybe if a person knows for sure that he will feel no attraction or have Hirhurim from the events then it’s Muttar to watch, but it would very much not be recommended. And to anyone who would claim that they can watch without any attraction, I would quote R’ Bina: “You’re either lying or you’re gay.”

” She deserves nothing but ignoring her.”

Well, that’s one of the two thing most cr people are capable of. 1)Ignore. 2)Rants. Now say it together… See what I did?

Yes indeed well done Aly Raisman, her reference to the tragedy of Munich was very apt. If you do not consider it appropriate to watch, don’t

mewho: That’s a load of hogwash.

I ain’t judging who is a tzadik and who is a rasha (except joseph of course), but you certainly should be willing to call out who is following halacha and who is not.

I agree with what popa said, and would like to add that many people here are being hypocritical.

There are stories of the Barditchiver Rav where he found good things to say about the worst sort of people. He looked for drunks on the night of Pesach. He looked for non-frum Jews on Yom Kippur. For all of them, he found good things to say about them, and turned it into a tefillah for Hashem to judge the Jewish nation favorably.

Let’s all take a page from his book.

Hashem, look at this gymnast! She was raised to not know what it means to be frum and follow the Torah. She doesn’t know enough to dress properly on the international stage. Yet, despite all that, look at her caring for her fellow Jews! When the world won’t recognize Jews who died al kiddush Hashem, she gets up and stands up for what is right, and shows that she’s proud to be Jewish!

Hashem, even though we’ve fallen so far that we often don’t even realize it, please remember that we are still proud to be your chosen people! U’vchal zos, shimcha lo shachachnu! Na, al tishkacheinu!

Feif un- I agree with being melamed zchus, but we also have to be realistic about the halachik position in a case (which most often is complimentary to the limid zchus, so calling it a limud zchus is cheapening it). We can’t just pay attention to one, or the other.