make-up

Precisely for that reason, that she is single. She wants to “market” herself as beautiful, and makeup can enhance a woman’s beauty. A shidduch can come from anywhere, even from a co-worker who thinks of her for a friend or a client who has a nephew, etc…

” why would a FRUM single girl want to wear makeup??? “

Simple. To get from “single” and “married”.

And then, all the makeup that Lancome can produce is justified.

maybe you should ask single girls WHY she wears makeup. and i’ll even answer your question. if i did not wear makeup, i would not want to look in the mirror. i wear ‘full face’ makeup every day but it varies in heaviness based on the setting.

as hockster613 said, its usually to cover up a problem spot or bring emphasis to one area. ei, eyeliner to brighten eyes or make them look larger than they are. but i agree there is a fine line between looking respectable and presentable and overdone/circus clown. each situation a young women puts on make up, being for work, college, shabbos, wedding etc. requires a different type of application, be it heavier or more neutral. it kinda a sensitivity to know the amount of makeup needed, just like certain styles of dress are ‘tznius’ but those with a sensitivity to tznius won’t wear that style.

So marry a girl who wears no makeup. Don’t tell other girls not to make themselves feel more attractive, if they feel makeup is needed. Someone who wears clownish makeup should have a makeup artist tell her that, not you. There is no issur on being or feeling pretty. Some people need more help than others. As to the why of it – that should be fairly obvious.

well, every teenager looks forward to make up.

and just like some people i know, when they get to use or do something they have been waiting for, in the begining it’s over exxxxagerated and then either it calms down or it doesn’t. (driving, texting, drinking, etc.)

also, understand that she might feel a little undermind, and this is her way of filling a need she’s lacking.

or maybe, she want’s to portray herself a certain way, that can only be achieved this way.

anyway, just be don lekaf zechus.

“is it attention seeking, for a single girl to be wearing make-up all the time”

No, it’s not. For her, it’s part of getting dressed in the morning.

“she doesn’t have to look beautiful for her husband..So what’s the point at that particular stage??”

Taka a guess.

“So My Main question is why would a FRUM single girl want to wear makeup???”

Why not?

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regardless if she is married or single, it is certainly NONE of your business how much makeup a woman wears or how she wears it. don’t arrange for anyone to speak with her about how she looks–mind your own business!

While my moniker may or may not say anything about my taste in make-up (minimal), it can be used to cover imperfections and highlight stronger features, but it should not looked “caked”. Perhaps this girl needs a lesson or two in how to apply it properly to cover that which needs to, but at the same time look bataamt. Such a suggestion needs to come from a parent, sibling, or friend. An anonymous gift certificate left on her keyboard might work as well (if noone else either knows about it), but leave her feeling very self-conscious in the office.

I allow my daughter (teenage) to wear nail polish, as long as it’s not loud and tasteless. Yes, I know that means that I’m a horrible parent.

The Wolf

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Sorry. Meant to write “take a guess.”

One thing I learnt in school is

You should look atractive, not attracting.

lol, that’s what they told us too.

Wolf, it’s just a cute gimmick, but the point they’re trying to make is that you’re supposed to pretty as long as you aren’t actively trying to attract.

Queen Bee – actually, I have always much preferred to see girls without any form of make-up. I tried to convince my wife before our chassunah that she shouldn’t wear any make-up at the chassunah. I leave it up to you to figure out who won that argument… 🙂

Really, my view on make-up is rather simple. It consists of two simple facts:

* Ugly girls are ugly. Make-up won’t change that.

* Good-looking girls are good-looking. Make-up won’t change that.

Logical conclusion from that: make-up is completely pointless.

I’m well aware that mine is a minority opinion. I think make-up should be banned. The only purpose it serves is to make a person look ‘cheap’.

In Israel I have seen many, often American, borderline ‘yeshivish’ girls wearing so much make-up that in Amsterdam one would expect to find them working in the Red Light District. I think that is completely disgusting and it is a huge shame that any parent will allow their daughter to walk around like that.

wolf and dunno i think its that IF they look at you they think hey she looks really good

but now that you’re walking down the street and everyones head starts turning because of the amount of makeup the person is wearing.

Thanks for your reply, The Chassidishe Gatesheader.

The thing I have an issue with is: why should girls even have to wear makeup? It should be love “me the way I am.” Even if a girl doesn’t want to wear makeup, everyone around her does, and the thought of her husband looking at other girls really scares her, so she puts on makeup. Or even a girl who’s dating–she might be scared that guys won’t feel attracted to her the way they feel attracted to other girls because she doesn’t wear makeup. Sigh.

My principal also said that line, that a girl should be attractive but not attracting. I didn’t really get it either, and I thought it was really ridiculous.

What some people don’t get is that the point of makeup is to accentuate your God-given qualities. For example; eye makeup is to make your eyes more pronounced, blush is to make your cheekbones sharper, lip makeup is to make your mouth stand out more.

Makeup is not for creating what’s not there, it’s for playing up your good features. If you can rock the whole no makeup look- good for you. No one says you have to wear makeup. Why you wouldn’t want to though, is beyond me.

As for the whole attractive vs. attracting thing, I never got it and I never will. IMHO, it’s impossible not to be attracting unless you walk around in an opaque bubble. No matter what you look like, there is always someone out there who will be attracted to you. You just have to learn how to not ask for negative attention (which is where tznius comes in).

Chassidishe Gatesheader, I disagree. Very few girls are exceptionally beautiful or exceptionally ugly, so your point really isn’t applicable. Most are pretty ordinary looking, and as cinderella said, use makeup as a tool to enhance their cosmetic strengths and subtly disguise their flaws. Of course, when you put so much makeup on that you look like a different person you’re sort of defeating the purpose. (And possibly showing how much you hate yourself.) But that isn’t a reason to completely abjure makeup. Like many other things, it’s a tool that can be used to both great benefit and great detriment.

lol, yitayningwut…I think what I inferred from the OP is that it’s good for a married woman to plaster herself with makeup. But I’m not entirely sure I quite understood the OP anyway.

Queen Bee

I wear makeup all the time, even when I have no plans to leave the house. For me, when my face is done, that IS me. And I think many women and girls would agree that husbands and shidduchim aside, they like themselves better in makeup.

TCG

I know many people, including myself, who apply makeup beautifully so they don’t look cheap or like red light district material. Most women are neither drop dead gorgeous nor ugly, and makeup can actually make them look beautiful. The fact that some women/girls have no idea how to apply it doesn’t make it pointless.

“Ugly girls are ugly. Make-up won’t change that.

Good-looking girls are good-looking. Make-up won’t change that”

I disagree.

Besides for the fact that ugly is a strong term, lets say people who don’t exactly have pretty features. Makeup can definiely improve their appearance.

There are so many techniques in makup that can help. Certain ways that blush is applied can make a round face look narrower, or it can even the severity of a double chin. Or if someone has bad skin a good base can cover blemishes/blotchiness and make it look smooth, which then results in putting on bronzer/blush to add coloring otherwise her face will be pale. Or if someone has a large nose lets say, putting nice coloring on her eyes can take focus away from her nose and it won’t be as bad.

As for pretty girls- good for them they don’t have to wear as much but everyone could use some more coloring- even pretty girls can wake up in the morning with a pale face and bags under her eyes! So a nice light touch is fine.

I can go on and on but i think that a lot has already been said.

realtalk- If a girl turns heads when she is wearing no makeup, is dressed completely tznius… there’s nothing she can do about it. She should try to avoid places where she would attract negative attention.

But there aren’t many people like that. There’s usually something- her attitude, the way she walks, talks… that is attracting the attention.

“Funniest of all? When my wife puts on makeup/ eyeliner to go to the gym. And its an all woman facility!”

What’s wrong with that? I do it. Why is it any different than putting on makeup before going shopping? We like to feel pretty all day, every day.

oomis1105

So true for many of us.

“but to say,”I can’t go out, because my face is not made up”, that’s also uncalled for.”

Its always when you have to run around the corner to the supermarket for five minutes, and you didn’t have time to put on anything and your feeling gross you meet the shadchan or the teacher you loved, or an old friend you haven’t seen in years….lol