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December 25, 2011 11:39 pm at 11:39 pm #601295☕️coffee addictParticipant
cnn.com has a video about the maccabeats if anyone is interested
December 26, 2011 4:08 am at 4:08 am #839002moishyParticipant’bout what??
December 26, 2011 5:07 am at 5:07 am #839003yashrus20Memberwoohoo! Go yivanim! The maccabeets is only liked because it makes us feel as if we can be like the goyim..We were so excited when they got aired. Why is that?
December 26, 2011 5:19 am at 5:19 am #839004yitzchokmParticipantyashrus20
good point!
December 26, 2011 5:30 am at 5:30 am #839005yashrus20Memberyitzchokm- I know this is the wrong thread but…shout out to you!
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December 26, 2011 11:01 am at 11:01 am #839006☕️coffee addictParticipantWatch the video before people comment
December 26, 2011 1:43 pm at 1:43 pm #8390072scentsParticipantInterested about what?
They have a new chanuka song?
December 26, 2011 2:47 pm at 2:47 pm #839008☕️coffee addictParticipantDid you watch the video?
December 26, 2011 3:50 pm at 3:50 pm #839009yitzchokmParticipantCoffee-
yashrus’s point is still very vaild, regardless of the content of the video!
December 26, 2011 5:01 pm at 5:01 pm #839010☕️coffee addictParticipantYitzchokm, I don’t get the shaychus then
December 26, 2011 5:39 pm at 5:39 pm #839011yitzchokmParticipantCoffee-
No matter how you cut it, going on tv to promote a song or singer(s) is Falling in the hellenistic trap, to want to find favor and be like the yivanim
December 26, 2011 10:43 pm at 10:43 pm #839012☕️coffee addictParticipantok I see that no one was interested in what it was talking about, just that it was “on TV”
they were actually making an album for bone marrow transplant, which I thought was a big Kiddush Hashem,
and if that is the case going online to promote oorah or a cd would be the same (something which ywn has been doing)
December 26, 2011 11:59 pm at 11:59 pm #839013whatelseisleftMemberthank goodness gracious YBC or eli gestner or those people have never been on tv or anything.
December 27, 2011 12:02 am at 12:02 am #839014whatelseisleftMemberwait!
they have been.
#fail
December 27, 2011 2:22 am at 2:22 am #839015WIYMember“ok I see that no one was interested in what it was talking about, just that it was “on TV”
they were actually making an album for bone marrow transplant, which I thought was a big Kiddush Hashem,”
Kiddush Hashem?! Its called a Kosher chazer fissel! (A Kosher pig’s foot)
A mitzvah Habah Beavayrah is not a Kiddush Hashem!
December 27, 2011 2:25 am at 2:25 am #839016hatzolajewMemberAm I the only one who isn’t a fan. Not for any ideological purposes, I just don’t like their music…
December 27, 2011 2:35 am at 2:35 am #839017☕️coffee addictParticipantKiddush Hashem?! Its called a Kosher chazer fissel! (A Kosher pig’s foot)
A mitzvah Habah Beavayrah is not a Kiddush Hashem!
can you explain, please
December 27, 2011 2:56 am at 2:56 am #839018Sam2ParticipantWIY: Mitzvah Haba’ah B’aveira?? Why, because they asked for money online/on tv? Let me know when any Frum institution refuses money unless it comes from someone who doesn’t watch tv/use the internet.
December 27, 2011 3:07 am at 3:07 am #839019yitayningwutParticipantYes, please do explain.
December 27, 2011 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #839020yitzchokmParticipantSam, and the rest,
Question, Do you think the maccabeats are trying to impress jews or non Jews when going on live tv?
December 27, 2011 6:32 pm at 6:32 pm #839021☕️coffee addictParticipantYitzchokm,
If I put a video of you on live tv, who are you trying to impress?
The answer is no one (I might be trying to do the impressing for you)
December 27, 2011 7:04 pm at 7:04 pm #839022Sam2ParticipantYitzchokm: I know for a fact that the Maccabeats want Jews to hear and see their videos about the holidays. In this particular instance, since it is a Tzedaka campaign, they would love to reach both.
December 27, 2011 10:07 pm at 10:07 pm #839023yitzchokmParticipantSam2,
What you happen to know is irrelevant, since I am writing about their actions, not thoughts.
Copying (“modifying!!” non jewish music, dance styles, makes it (at least) look like they are pandering to the yivanim
December 27, 2011 11:05 pm at 11:05 pm #839024☕️coffee addictParticipantso let’s write about Tamar’s, Yehudis’, and Esther’s actions not thoughts the thought is what makes it Lishma
December 28, 2011 12:07 am at 12:07 am #839025Sam2ParticipantYitchokm: Jewish music throughout all of history has just been taking the Goyish music and using it for purposes of Kedusha (and sometimes not even then).
December 28, 2011 12:55 am at 12:55 am #839026yitzchokmParticipantcoffee addict-
ya, your, right. the maccabeats can be compered to Tamar, Yehudis and Esther. And so whatever they do we must not question them.
Sam-
the maccabeats, (see above), are like some gedolim who took non-jewish songs and were mekadish them for us. End of discussion.
Just because others do it, doesn’t make it less of a problem.
December 28, 2011 3:05 am at 3:05 am #839027Sam2ParticipantYitzchokm: And what is the problem with it, exactly?
December 28, 2011 4:08 am at 4:08 am #839028yitayningwutParticipantSam2 –
I think he was being facetious. Not that I agree with his point, at all. I think the Maccabeats are wonderful.
December 28, 2011 4:15 am at 4:15 am #839029yitzchokmParticipantSam2:
following and emulating the goyim.
December 28, 2011 4:28 am at 4:28 am #839030Sam2ParticipantYitachokm: Are you trying to claim there is some Issur of Chukas Hagoyim here? Check out YD 177-179 (give or take) and try and make that claim again please.
December 28, 2011 4:48 am at 4:48 am #839031RABBAIMParticipantWhen I filtered my water through a filter which was not changed in 8 months it didn’t come out clean. Know why? Because the filter was not pristine and pure. When the Tzadikim filtered songs based on teh Baals Shem Tovs vort of “Kchu Mizimras Haaretz” it was Tzadikim and gedolim filtering, not general public. Know why? Because we need a refined clean untainted pure filter consumed wiht Yiras Shamayim to properly filter. especially for music which is the song of the soul.
December 28, 2011 4:50 am at 4:50 am #839032yitayningwutParticipantNu nu.
December 28, 2011 12:48 pm at 12:48 pm #839033zahavasdadParticipantI guess its Traif for the Maccabeats to do this, but its 100% Kosher for Oorah to call itself Kars-4-Kids
December 28, 2011 1:36 pm at 1:36 pm #839034WIYMemberThe maccabeats is the same as kosher style food. Treif but looks and sounds Jewish. A lot of their music is mostly off of the radio and almost exactly the same except for some clever word changes. Additionally they have performed non Jewish songs with no changes whatsoever. They have music videos with girls in them and they keep pushing the envelope.
They delude themselves and us by calling themselves maccabeats. They should calm themselves misyavnimbeats if they wanted to be honest with themselves and us.
December 28, 2011 1:50 pm at 1:50 pm #839035Sam2ParticipantWow. Just wow. Mods, why are you letting pure, purposeless bashing of Frum people through here? Do any of you think that the Maccabeats don’t ask Shailos (I think to Rav Willig) before they do controversial things?
December 28, 2011 1:58 pm at 1:58 pm #8390362scentsParticipantZahavasdad,
What is the comparison between the ACTION of the Maccabeats and what Oorah CALLS themselves?
December 28, 2011 2:16 pm at 2:16 pm #839037gavra_at_workParticipantYou will never agree on this one. Both sides just have no clue where the other is coming from.
December 28, 2011 2:21 pm at 2:21 pm #839038☕️coffee addictParticipantWiy,
Do you know shlomie dasks ?also showed women on his music video?
December 28, 2011 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm #839039☕️coffee addictParticipantAlso piamenta takes their tunes straight from goyish songs and gerson veroba takes words straight from goyish songs
December 28, 2011 3:23 pm at 3:23 pm #839040matsav20Memberthey have a lot of reasons to put this video on TV… we don’t know why they did that…
if you don’t agree with that don’t listen them and don’t watch them even on the internet…
personnally i don’t think its “really jewish music” …but its probably better than a totally goyish music …
maccabeats its also for kiruv i think…so…
December 28, 2011 3:25 pm at 3:25 pm #839041☕️coffee addictParticipantYitzchokm,
You could answer without sarcasm
December 28, 2011 3:36 pm at 3:36 pm #839042zahavasdadParticipantThe actions of Oorah, they advertise on the Radio and dont tell the goyim where the money is going.
I have no problem with them raising the money and for what its for, but I have a problem with them raising the money and NOT telling people the real purpose and deceiving people
December 28, 2011 3:55 pm at 3:55 pm #839043yitzchokmParticipantSam, yes it could be that they asked, and if they did get das Torah, then they are right. I don’t think they did.
Coffee,
I like sarcasm. I use it a lot.
In regards to your comment, the same questions can be asked of the singers you mentioned.
Matsav-
Kriuv? Really? And if it is?!?
December 28, 2011 3:58 pm at 3:58 pm #839044yitzchokmParticipantCoffee
Writing about Tamar and Esther in the same sentence as the maccabeas calls for sarcasm
December 28, 2011 4:27 pm at 4:27 pm #839045matsav20Memberi think the real problem its not “this video on TV” but this video and that kind of “jewish music” , and the message they want to get with…
personnally i don’t considerate that like jewish music …
December 28, 2011 7:03 pm at 7:03 pm #839046☕️coffee addictParticipantYitzchokm,
Ok I hear you, I also don’t agree with this type of music (I never even heard a maccabeat song until now) I thought you were directing your criticism specifically at the maccabeats going on tv not at their music
My post was specifically meant to show that cnn had a video about them for their efforts in regard to treating bone marrow which I thought is somewhat an Or LaGoyim
December 28, 2011 7:29 pm at 7:29 pm #839047yitzchokmParticipantCoffee
Btw, I did watch the segment.
As a side note, re: Jewish music today,
At the rate we’re going, in a few years “orthodox reggae singer/rapper” won’t rise eyebrows.
December 28, 2011 7:55 pm at 7:55 pm #839048yitayningwutParticipantAs it shouldn’t.
December 28, 2011 8:37 pm at 8:37 pm #839049yitzchokmParticipantYitta-
Shouldn’t waht?
December 29, 2011 12:24 am at 12:24 am #839050yitayningwutParticipantRaise eyebrows.
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